Yomi Innate or Nurtured?

thank you myke....


seriously...

oh and goOOOOOOO HARLEM H8TER!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

I agree 100% here.

 

I have always wondered why in VF a lot of the terms weren't translated and kept in Japanese, I always felt like that scares some of my friends off from playing the game. I didn't know yomi literally ment reading, all games require you to read your opponent. Shoot while I was playing Halo 3 last night I was reading my opponent so I could dodge their bullets with a red flashing health bar to take out a team of 3 players out (one at a time but they kept talking to each other to let the others know where I was, they should have all rushed me together instead of going 1 by 1 ala kung fu movie style)

 

Hahaha, that's hilarious /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
Thanks, Myke, hopefully you've helped to take this word out of most VF'ers vocab.
"Yomi??? Man, fucka yomi! It's reading mofo, reading." Lol.

Seriously, I like how you've dispelled the mysticism attached to this word. I think most of us who didn't know that it was just the Japanese word for "reading" believed it was some technique for advanced players only, at some point or another XD

I'm going to seriously stop using this word, it's stupid if all I'm saying is reading in Japanese, why not just say reading?
(lol, watch somebody reply with "because yomi sounds cooler than reading, duh" hahaha)

 

Cooler, maybe not, but it's light-years more technical-sounding...

 

Listen buddy, I'm an Old Hand on VFDC, you're just an Addict, you're a fucking nobody!



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I think the term "yomi" can still be used, mainly as a term encompassing the ability to read one's opponent.

Example: "Oh, wow he was able to read he's opponent well there. He's got 'yomi."

Hmmm...after reading what I just wrote, there is no doubt I'm a nerd /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

 

since yomi is a verb you don't have it you can do it well.

Honestly we as a community it'd be great to help players learn the game and not be so intimidated by it by taking away a lot of those japaneese terms that already have an english counterpart. It'll still sound cool to be speaking japaneese but we're just adding another layer of mist over something that has enough convolutedness around it as it is.

The thread topic when I think of it as "reading Innate or Nurtured" becomes obvious when translated.

 

Actually, "yomu" is the verb form. "Yomi" is the noun form. "Yonde" is the gerund form.

 

Myke, about the earlier post, yeah I think you're right. Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

I agree with you, thing is, I'm fairly new to this community, so I always thought that that was words people wanted to hear and understood. Just like Moral, Abare, Nitaku, Okizeme and shit like that.

I'd much rather just say reading, aggressive, wakeup, and other stuff like that. But like you'll read the wiki or read posts, and the other words is ALL you see, like notation. So what im saying is that, the use of those words were the examples that were set before I even started posting.

 

Might be good to make an effort to translating the Japanese words out of our posts. Probably make the information a little more accessible to people as opposed to them having to know all the glossary terms first.

 

Thats why i Fuck wit you Myke. I like how put that. As funny as it may seem when i hear people using Japanese words to explain situations like they're i be wanting to smack the shit outta them seriously lol! Like i said The players make VF5 more serious than what it is.

 

We can atleast tranlate the words that make sense like Nitaku is just another way to say 50/50 which you would call it in any other fighting game.

 

Nitaku is not another way to say 50/50. 択 means choice or to select; nitaku means 2-choice, that's it. 50/50 implies that it's a pure mixup where the optimal strategy is to choose randomly, which is not at all the case.

As for translating ALL of the japanese used in VF . . . cmon now, I have enough trouble reading people's posts when they say "counter" to mean . . . counterhit ? reversal? sabaki? inashi? recovery hit?

And, yeah, yomi has all kinds of mystical bullshit connotations . . .WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY PEOPLE MAKE THREADS ABOUT IT.

/me is sorry for ignoring h8rs excellent advice . . . will go back to asking myself why I suck rather than posting in this thread.

 

I agree with Myke. Lets stop using Japanese translations when possible before we start using them for every term. It only makes things more confusing for new comers and just makes things annoying for everyone else

 

In nitaku though if you break it down to it's most basic elements in terms of using the correct defense you're left with ETEG or Block while your opponent has FC or throw, since ETEG (assuming you are doing the right TE's) will kill the mid throw part of the nitaku kinda.

Ok so it might be a stretch but does what I'm trying to say kinda make sense.

 

Well my opinion on the subject is that blah blah blah, whine whine whine, blah blah blah. Yomi blah blah, only 50/50 whine whine, tralala.

To any1 who blah blah blah, I advise to blah blah blah.

Damn! Actually I just wanted to say that flame flame flame flame flame flame flame.

And whatever you flam blah blah flame, I will blah blah whine flame blah.

So.... blah flame whine.


Edit: And I know I'm right... 'cause Haters are never wrong.

 

Using the word yomi is kind of pointless I agree, but I dont really know any better word or expression for nitaku. Its even worse on my native language where the alternative expressions tend to be quite long words.

 

on 4evo it was called forced choice