Where's B1 and IMF

Not true, zaibatsu and shoryuken were around and still equally as strong. Ive seen the zaibatsu forums for along time, the internet was already very large. I think cause its a PS2 release plus more popular game.

 

VF is finally on the most popular system (PS2). It's also closer to the arcade version than previous games were, but the fact of the matter is: Tekken, SC2, Capcom games, etc. are also on PS2. These have always been more popular than VF, so it shouldn't be a shock to anyone that nothing has changed.

IMO, the death of the U.S. arcade scene began when SF2 was first released on the SNES. Fighting games in general seem to be less popular now compared to when I was younger, and arcade games haven't evolved at the same rate that the home consoles have. I hope VF.net makes it to the U.S. to provide players with something they cannot get at home. This is the only thing right now that I think is capable of bringing the VF arcade scene to life.


"Less hardcore players"

I don't think it's possible to come up with a complete explanation for the lack of hardcore VF players in the U.S. now. You live in a heavily populated area with arcades that actually have VF machines. Others don't have that luxury. Some people play for fun, some will do whatever it takes to be competetive, while others will only play if people in their area share the same interest. I don't think that pounding people to death with shit-talking is going to make them more "hardcore". It only drives people away from an already unpopular game.

VF3 was a few years ago. Many different things can happen in a few short years. Being "hardcore" is very time-consuming. People get older and their priorities change. Some simply just don't have time anymore. People have various reasons for playing/not playing and you should have the decency to respect that. Just be happy that VF is released in america. It's better than nothing.

 

Hey Andy, quite a response! I must have hit a nerve or something... I'll respond to what I can, but most of what you wrote was just going off on a tangent and putting words in my mouth...

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Lemme repeat something if it's not painfully obvious.

YOU were not around in VF3 days. You didn't see what happened. If what you say is TRUE we should have less VF4 players in NYC than VF3.

We had 5 or more VF3 machines in NYC with people playing. We have 1 Evo machine that is .50 at CTF 1 for $1 at Laser Parl. WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE playing vf4 with less machines. Dont trick yourself into thinking we have lots of people so there is a scene to make yourself happy. Cause if that was true in VF3 our scene would have been huge.


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Yes I didn't know about VFDC during VF3 days, but I played VF and went to arcades... And I didn't visit any arcades in NYC during this time, but my extrapolation from what I saw around me to what it might have been like in NYC is that during VF3 days, moreso than VF4 days, was that you could walk into any random arcade and find more people playing the current release of VF... I guess I was wrong in my assumption, but in my world (outside of NYC) you could learn some stuff by going into an arcade and playing VF against people during VF3 days... You can't do that during VF4 days unless you live in a major city like Toronto, Boston, LA or NYC...

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And your explanation why MORE people play vf4 yet there are less people who play than in VF3 days makes no sense cause BOTH scenes really took off when the games came out at home.

Just look at the TRAFFIC at vfdc if you need any proof. What does that have to do with the number of Arcade machines or downfall of VF? VFDC has 10 times the traffic of the VF3 days.

What's your explanation for that Alex? Why are there SO many people who play yet less hardcore comp?


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Because they are playing at home amongst small groups of people, not in an arcade where more people will get to play other people out of their groups... If you get VF4 for the PS2 sure you will play against your buddies a lot, but its not like you are going to meet someone outside of your house with an interest in VF, invite them over that day and start playing with them on a regular basis... If you and that same stranger with interest in VF met in an arcade you'd fight there more often... That was my explanation in my last reply too, I guess you missed it there though...

And actually thinking about it and taking a step back, is there actually less hardcore competition now? I mean how many people could kick your ass during VF3 days? How many people give you a run for your money now?

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And YEAH you must have MISSED the entire mess about B1 and IMF not needing NYC and them stating they are the NEW hotness.


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Yeah I did... If you got logs I'll read it over...

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The thread you brought up was BEFORE anyone liked them on VFDC. Thanks for defending me Alex. I love it.


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What are you talking about? I'm not defending you...

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Now where is your excuse for B1 quitting? I stayed out of it for years. No flames from me. No NYC involvement cause they said they didn't want or need me to be involved.


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I don't have one, I never said he was going to be a great player or stick around for a long time - that was you who said that...

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If you really care about the scene; don't bite the hand that feeds you. (Boston's Shang/Jerky, TO's LLAN or ME)


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Are you talking to me here? Or to other people?

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Cause like B1 and IMF if you dont have the MEANS (time, energy, commitment, money) to support your scene then you are full of hot air to build a scene or make claims in the first place.


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You are full of hot air until you go up to NYC and win NYG3...
Then you put your money where your mouth is...

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Where is the FL HOTNESS you so loved and so admired on VFDC?


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Who knows...

-Alex

 

I'm not replying to anyone in particular - but I would like to add my view on player numbers for VF3 and VF4. Imo, there are more players for VF4, mainly because the game is far more accessible to becoming - dare I say it - competent, than VF3. VF3 was, and is, far more difficult to play at a high level than VF4 ever could be. Go back one more, and VF2 is the same to VF3 - more difficult. Add in the exposure VF4 got through being put out on a Sony console, and you've got more players. It's the nature of the beast, really. VF4 is remarkably easy and has attracted more players because of it.

<font color="yellow">.cheers.</font>

 

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Where is the FL HOTNESS you so loved and so admired on VFDC?

Who knows...


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Exactly...END OF STORY.

Wanna read about it? Use the search.

 

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Where is the FL HOTNESS you so loved and so admired on VFDC?

Who knows...


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Exactly...END OF STORY.


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Well, they live on in your mind and in your threads... Even if they arn't posting or playing anymore they have more staying power than most as people miss them, wonder where they are, and still bring up threads about them... They sure did something right - end of story.

-Alex

 

Andy.... walk away.... walk away... /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

*Gives SuperG a big hi5*

Yes andy i still read the boards and believe it or not i still play VF. I will always like VF. Me and Imf are playing a few matches this evening actually. Are we as motivated as we once were? no. Are you still a sucktard? yes. end of story /versus/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

You faggots aren't real men. YOU GUYS LICK THE HAIRY SIDE OF MY ASS! HA!

*Cough* Only real men go to -->EVO<--

HINT HINT

 

Yeah WHATEVER

Stop talking out of your ass again plz. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

In that case you if you don't get laid in Cali don't come back to the East Coast.

 

blondie, post up the media..... help me to like watching jacky again plz /versus/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

Andy was not really born at all. A crow shit on the sidewalk and he was hatched from it by the sun. Do a search.

 

Hi to blondie and imf wherever they are.
For crew:

Crew's theory: "Maybe my rude trash talk is beneficial to the scene".

Look at the facts:
1. Crew has been talking trash steadily without stopping forever now.
2. The scene isn't improving, it's going downhill.
3. Therefore, crew's method doesn't work, eh?

I dunno if he's part of the problem, but andy's definitely not part of the solution.

 

Trash-talking

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CreeD said:

Crew's theory: "Maybe my rude trash talk is beneficial to the scene".

Look at the facts:
1. Crew has been talking trash steadily without stopping forever now.
2. The scene isn't improving, it's going downhill.
3. Therefore, crew's method doesn't work, eh?

I dunno if he's part of the problem, but andy's definitely not part of the solution.

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Trash-talking doesn't translate well to the internet. It's really a face-to-face thing. But, between the right people it can get the competition, excitment, and fun geared up at a gathering/tourney. On VFDC however, trash-talking only seems to generate true animosity instead of the friendly rivalry that good trash-talking does.

Long story, short -- I agree with you Creed.



kbcat

 

Re: On the front page.

Crew's HARDCORE grit and determination to stick with VF4 after NYG3 in his own words. And a hint into why nobody's seen him outside of his living room since.

This log reminds me of when I used to talk to you and liked you Andy. Sort of forgot about those days. /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


imonkeyfis 10/8/2002 1:41 PM HEY!!!

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:32 AM you can't quit

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:33 AM heh hey dude

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:33 AM Ialrewady did

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:33 AM I was just thinking of you too

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:33 AM I was gonna ask you if you and blondie were
practicing TK4 at all?

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:33 AM for EC4

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:33 AM no we're not


CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:34 AM your bob's can be real good real fast

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:34 AM thanks

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:34 AM yeah TK is still full of shit to me now /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:34 AM /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:34 AM too much poking

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:34 AM /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:34 AM i forbid you to quit VF

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:34 AM haha too late

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:34 AM I'm lasy

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:34 AM nope

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:35 AM lazy

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:35 AM it's never too late

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:35 AM besides ad is acting all funny

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:35 AM why?

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:35 AM plus im tired of all the smack talking

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:35 AM what do you mean?

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:35 AM dunno he wrote some strange shit on the board

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:35 AM dog, you know you're gonna play Evo in the
arcade

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:36 AM don't front

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:36 AM nah im gonna avoid the arcade

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:36 AM you can't

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:36 AM serious I might play for fun and kicks

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:36 AM kinda like sal

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:36 AM but im not gonna get all hardcore even when
the comp starts to get good

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:36 AM hmm...

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:37 AM but I doubt i'll even fo that

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:37 AM I think ad is on his own

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:37 AM he'll have hiro

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:37 AM and thats all he really needs

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:37 AM why though?

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:37 AM tell me

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:37 AM as far as im concerned only the new blood, you
two, and ad/hiro have a chance at being at the
top

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:38 AM I dont front, I think with practice I could
beat anyone

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:39 AM but I thought about it, and I dont thikn its
worth it

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:39 AM my ass is waay too behind

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:39 AM just play evo when it comes out

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:39 AM nah it aint about the moves I tell you

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:39 AM go to the arcade and you'll have fun

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:40 AM bring back that loving feelin'

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:43 AM I would keep playing if there were like a
hundred competitors

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:43 AM all trying to be #1

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:43 AM or even 10-20

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:43 AM but sadly its 4 people I really have to beat

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:44 AM yeah no kidding

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:44 AM but you don't HAVE to beat them

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:44 AM you guys got strangely good strangely quickly

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:44 AM sure I do

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:44 AM thats why I quit

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:47 AM now if I quit, hiro and ad wont pay me any
attention

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:48 AM don't quit dog

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:48 AM I mean we'll all be buds

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:48 AM play evo for a while

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:48 AM but the reason why we stick together was VF

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:48 AM that was the glue for us

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:49 AM lemme tell you ad is gonna totally try and
destroy you and blondie to keep FL in check

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:49 AM I mean he's not gunning for a few wins, he
wants like 10-20 at a time

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:49 AM i got that idea

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:49 AM and he's determined to do it

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:49 AM good

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:50 AM that may spark you and blondie to get good to
beat his ass

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:50 AM but I dont have that drive in me anymore

imonkeyfis 10/9/2002 1:50 AM we're planning on it anyway

CrewNYC 10/9/2002 1:51 AM so dog I just cant do it. I'll play for fun
maybe but no competative VF for me anymore




Something about rocks and glass houses comes to mind.

 

Re: On the front page.

Hope FL finds FT soon. - beast from the south east needs to return.

 

Re: On the front page.

I'm posting in this thread.

 

Re: On the front page.

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I'm posting in this thread.

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what exactly is the point of this thread & some of the posts? there's like nothing about the game around here except for fluff flames and filler.

 

Re: On the front page.

It's about re-opening old wounds and creating new ones.

It's also about the bitches. Hot, sexy bitches.

 

Re: On the front page.

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What exactly is the point of this thread & some of the posts? there's like nothing about the game around here except for fluff flames and filler.

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Hello how are you?

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