What Strategy Gets Under Your Skin?

No problem man.

I threw this one Kage player out three rounds in a row over the low wall and he wasn't happy.

Screamed all kinds of abuse at me.

I tried to tell him how to break the hold but he wasn't interested.

 

lol. I would have screamed too. But I probably would have taken the advice afterward.

 

I'm guessing you haven't played many Kage players who use TFT properly? You'll hate me too with my ring-out tactics =)

 

I play a friend of mine called 'Izayoi Master' Who uses Kage.

He likes the Ten foot toss but I've started breaking it recently.

It was pretty essential.

You can get some serious juggle range from that throw.

 

I understand the usefulness of ring-outs and how "skill" they are, but if that's your entire strategy and you're defending it by saying "it can be broken"... it says a lot about the way you play, honestly.

I don't want to waste my time trying to play someone over and over again if they're going to focus on ringing me out. Granted, if they play me into a position where it just happens, that's one thing. If they're gunning for it over and over, then it's lame, because even for a vet, the window on throw escapes are still pretty slim, I'd imagine, and factoring in lag and bad timing, it makes trying to escape way harder than it has to be.

TFT bothers me for the fact you can very safely juggle someone from long distances over the low walls. Nobody else has that, and nobody else has the sheer number of options offensively to use against an opponent like Kage. It's just MY opinion, but I don't think it should be that way.

 

Fast P characters and lp spamming are difficult to stop online. Also frame tight counters to moves that are P counterable not hitting are annoying as well.

C'est la vie, that's why there's offline for hardcore players. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

It's not the entire focus of my gameplan.

Not at all.

I will try and beat you down in the centre of the ring but If i get you close to the edge or you get me close, ringing you out is going to be my number one priority.

Unless you have low health, in which case I'll focus on dealing the required damage.

I don't immediately jump to the edge every match.

I win many more rounds by fighting than I do by ringing someone out.

 

For these players I like to score a knockdown and then start harassing them as they get up, because I know most of the movesw that either duck, evade or eat Ps as they occur.

Everyone has certain moves that are really good versus Ps and low Ps. Also... sidestep often, fake your opponents out and step around a bit. High level guys have a way that they just evade and dash back and forth just to get their opponent to throw something out and THEN they run in for the whoopin'.

Not guaranteeing anything, but it's an idea.

 

What you're saying works, and we do that. It's just that lag has a way of messing that up. That's why Jerky said it's difficult to stop 2P spammers "online."

 

I love letting the punch-spammers/lei-fei push me to low wall just so I can TFT them over to teach them a lesson.

 

I appreciate your response, but you missed the point of my post.

 

Yeah Cisco made me learn not to sidestep him. (-_-)

 

Well it's not really a tactic (well, for Lion it is), but I hate it when I'm on the ground and can't tech roll cause of lag and someone constantly stomps on me like a madman. Online Lions which I played constantly abuse this and I know nothing about how I can avoid it.

 

Turtles with Aoi...
They wait all day for the reversal and talk smack when they
get one on you yet if they don't reverse, they cannot touch
you because they don't understand the play mechanics... You can mix
it up and beat them easily,,,

 

I have learned to deal with just about every strategy with Wolf over the past few days.

The guy literally has an answer to everything.

And most of those answers deal potentially 70+ damage.

 

People that don't let me drink. I mean, I can understand why people wouldn't want me spacing and all I want is 10 sake man, it's really more of a annoyance than a problem though. Automatic drink moves solve this problem, but I wouldn't mind a free back-turn SOU drink once in awhile.

Distance players that repeat the same exact move, in no mind-game fashion. I give players credit for going from a mid to a high at a range battle, but it's kind of irritating and slightly boring to try and counter the same move over and over. It's not like I can't kill somebody doing the same mid kick over and over, or someone spacing with the same low kick over and over, it's more or less boring match though.

 

I hate the hundred-handslap on buttons tactic, a.k.a. buttonmashers.
ESPECIALLY in lag, it's impossible to win because your moves will always come out after.

 

I think that evade p+k is the last refuge of the weak. When people do this multiple times per round, it's sort of like saying, "I have no way of keeping up with you so I will throw this shit out and hope for the best!"

I have gotten pretty decent at dealing with it, but it is a weird kind of skill to be able to recognize who is a DM spammer and when do they like to poop it out.

 

Mashing is seriously annoying but not inescapable as the last two weeks of play and the help of others here have taught me. I think what kills me the most about it however, is when I actually lose to it. That sucks.

As for getting repeatedly stomped on, online I would seriously start spamming the recovering input. It's ugly but atleast I can get up when I need to. I absolutely love doing Pai's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif after a recovery and stunning stompers.