What Future Fighting Styles Would U Like To See In The VF Series

Is BJJ some what like judo it would be cool though to gave ground battles...ground counters...boy don't get me started... /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

True - HKD does have more offensive stuff than aiki-j or akido. That's prob why Sega had to invent all those bizarre strikes for Aoi. You know that Korean guy that Bruce Lee fights in Game of Death - I believe he's all HKD.

Vanessa- hey, she's got the M16 + rocket launcher, right? /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

Hrmm..which guy?

 

I think it's the second to last guy Bruce fights.

 

Yah, that'd be him. Small guy, with a real bad accent, utterly unimpressive if you just happen to run into him, but he kicked arse (of course Lee did him in, since this was his movie /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif .

He does many throws and reversals that many Aoi players will be familiar with, and even gets into the YY stance. Hehe.

 

that the dude with that claw attachment?
Hrmm...time to get into my bruce library.

 

Game of Death, dude. Not Enter the Dragon. /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

I think that a serious Brazilian Ju-Jitsu fighter would be nice to see, or maybe some Vale-Tudo/MMA. Sorry to all you Vanessa fans out there, but I take Muay Thai and Vale-Tudo at gym out here in Toronto, we're even taught by a UFC fighter, and both her MT and VT are a pale imitation of the real thing. I think she should have just gone one way or another, and focused on just one particular art (with the addition of a serious Muay Thai character now, Brad, I think maybe the could have Vanessa somewhat overhauled, and focus a lot more on the Vale-Tudo aspect in the next game). And as far as traditional Karate goes, you wouldn't hear any complaints from me if a Shotokan character were to make an appearance in the next game (so long as their name/appearance/style isn't a complete rip-off of Ryu or Ken /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif).

 

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Sorry to all you Vanessa fans out there, but I take Muay Thai and Vale-Tudo at gym out here in Toronto, we're even taught by a UFC fighter, and both her MT and VT are a pale imitation of the real thing. I think she should have just gone one way or another, and focused on just one particular art (with the addition of a serious Muay Thai character now, Brad, I think maybe the could have Vanessa somewhat overhauled, and focus a lot more on the Vale-Tudo aspect in the next game). And as far as traditional Karate goes, you wouldn't hear any complaints from me if a Shotokan character were to make an appearance in the next game (so long as their name/appearance/style isn't a complete rip-off of Ryu or Ken /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif).

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Actually, in Evo, they did just that. Vanessa better represents Vale Tudo in Evo than she did in vf4, and her muay thai is completely gone (Brad has got that area covered).

Yeah, and I would like traditional karate as well (I said it earlier, but I'll say it again /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif ). I really want Taka back though...he was too badass imo. Oh well /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

Don't you guys think with with traditional Karate, it'd be kinda too similar to Akira?
Coz his style is still fundamentally karate with an emphasis on linear power moves, right?

Although, if they wanna make the new karate character less hard-hitting but with greater juggle potential, I can see it happening.

 

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Don't you guys think with with traditional Karate, it'd be kinda too similar to Akira?
Coz his style is still fundamentally karate with an emphasis on linear power moves, right?

Although, if they wanna make the new karate character less hard-hitting but with greater juggle potential, I can see it happening.

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Not at all. Akira's art is actually a chinese one, and it bears little resemblance to traditional japanese karate. Traditional japapnese karate is known for linear hand strikes using open and closed fists (closest thing to Akira), a decent variety of kicks (which Akira is lacking), and some immobilization techniques.

The only thing of Akira's that remotelly resembles karate is his gi.

 

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jherb9000 said:

Is BJJ some what like judo it would be cool though to gave ground battles...ground counters...boy don't get me started... /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Hmmm i'm not 100% sure what BJJ is all about but taking your opponent down and immobilizing him is what i mostly see, I guess its kinda like judo in the grabbing aspect. I just want somebody like the gracie's in the game. I just love grappling and takedowns.

p.s. jherb9000 is your first name James? At a tekken 4 tournament that just passed in Hattiesburg, MS i met up with some guys who said they posted at VF.com and one of them was a guy named James from Louisiana.

 

nope...sorry. But ive practiced judo for a long time, and have sparred with jujitsu players they are very alike. Jujitsu i believe puts back the illegal moves from judo. like leg locks.

 

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Hmmm i'm not 100% sure what BJJ is all about but taking your opponent down and immobilizing him is what i mostly see, I guess its kinda like judo in the grabbing aspect. I just want somebody like the gracie's in the game. I just love grappling and takedowns

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BJJ is Brazillian Ju-Jistsu, and that is the art of fighting practiced by the afforementioned Gracie's (they teach this stuff at my gym to /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif, though I've never gone to any classes). BJJ was actually developed by the Gracie family, and has since become more and more popular, as well as accepted, in Martial Arts circles (although the only place you're really likely to see it come up is in UFC fights /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif)

 

Yah, from what i hear, Akira practices the chinese art of bajiquan- "eight extremity fists", or something to that effect.

 

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tzgorr1 said:

Don't you guys think with with traditional Karate, it'd be kinda too similar to Akira?
Coz his style is still fundamentally karate with an emphasis on linear power moves, right?

Although, if they wanna make the new karate character less hard-hitting but with greater juggle potential, I can see it happening.

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Not at all. Akira's art is actually a chinese one, and it bears little resemblance to traditional japanese karate. Traditional japapnese karate is known for linear hand strikes using open and closed fists (closest thing to Akira), a decent variety of kicks (which Akira is lacking), and some immobilization techniques.

The only thing of Akira's that remotelly resembles karate is his gi.

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Umm...Chinese styles have waaaay more kicks than almost any Japanese style I can think of. Shotokan, Goju-ryu, ishin-ryu, etc all have about 1/3 the number of kicks of any said Chinese style.

 

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afroconnexion said:

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tzgorr1 said:

Don't you guys think with with traditional Karate, it'd be kinda too similar to Akira?
Coz his style is still fundamentally karate with an emphasis on linear power moves, right?

Although, if they wanna make the new karate character less hard-hitting but with greater juggle potential, I can see it happening.

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Not at all. Akira's art is actually a chinese one, and it bears little resemblance to traditional japanese karate. Traditional japapnese karate is known for linear hand strikes using open and closed fists (closest thing to Akira), a decent variety of kicks (which Akira is lacking), and some immobilization techniques.

The only thing of Akira's that remotelly resembles karate is his gi.

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Umm...Chinese styles have waaaay more kicks than almost any Japanese style I can think of. Shotokan, Goju-ryu, ishin-ryu, etc all have about 1/3 the number of kicks of any said Chinese style.

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Akira's style of martial art regardless of what it's suppose to be which is eight directional hands is feeling more like karate than any more familiar chinese soft and circular style like tai chi or wing chun especially in EVO.

Even I can generate akira's more practical techniques in real life and I don't have to know his style of fighting. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Oh if you guys are wondering of akira fighting style represence more of the idea of JKA shotokan karate than any other karate idea. One primary idea which I mean is his SDE which is very effective in MC and shotokan reverse punch is mainly use in that aspect of intercepting a opponent's technique at excuation or lose of concentration. /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

More head to head excuation than just attacking when opponents is vulnable since intercepting force cause more damage than just one direction force for maximum damage.

One last factor is that Akira's real power is generated by his correct body placement and lower center of gravity to the ground/floor which is where his thrust is mainly coming rather than say some other character who uses those points less effectively. /versus/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

I'll just end the endless chain of quotes and say that I still disagree.

Now from here on, I'm basing baji-quan stuff on Akira's representation of it. Akira's attacks are based on (like said ealier) generating as much power into the attack as possible. Also, he strikes with areas that either hit the hardest or has the greatest chance of knocking the other guy off balance (knees, elbows, shoulder, both hands). Not many Japanese arts concentrate on attacking with these areas.

This doesn't resemble karate. Again, Chinese arts do generally have more kicks than Japanese arts, but not this one. If that were true, then what about Phoenix-eye wushu, southern praying-mantis, or other southern Chinese systems? Characteristics don't hold true for every art coming from a certain country. If that were so, then nobody would ever suspect Hapkido, TKD, and Tang Soo Do of all being from Korea. Look at Joe Lewis (martial artist, not the boxer). Sure, he's not kicking like a wushu or tkd guy, but kicking was a part of his attack plan and he trained in a traditional karate (shorin-ryu). He also didn't strike in the way Akira does (to generate as much power as possible), so there is quite a difference, and it's visible.

Of course, what we mostly know is second-hand (books, magazines, history, etc). But I have seen and done karate, and it is quite different from Akira's style.

 

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Of course, what we mostly know is second-hand (books, magazines, history, etc). But I have seen and done karate, and it is quite different from Akira's style.

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I not responding from second hand experience. And please read my post more carefully but I do have to apologize for my grammar which is really bad sometimes. /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

I'm sorry. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I'm just not grasping what you were trying to say in that earlier post.

And we all speak from a lot of secondhand experience. Even if you trained in a couple of arts, you can't speak for all of the arts of a nation. Learning of those arts comes secondhand. But maybe I'd understand better if I understood the post (again, not trying to be rude).

It seemed as though you were saying that shotokan and akira's representation of baji quan were similar. That is where I meant that I disagree.