What do you think about Bush?

Discussion in 'General' started by pkg_inc, Dec 1, 2003.

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  1. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

    I did back it up with the whole "reject what you want" thing, and I never said I believed everything (although, how a person believing in alien life forms can't get his head round the concept of aliens already here is kinda...well, y'know...and I don't exactly believe that part myself either), in fact, in an earlier post, I said I'd be surprised if even 10% of it was true...and eve that would be enough to be worrisome.

    As a certain character in a long, black coat might say:
    There is some fiction to your truth,
    And some truth to your fiction.

    No doubt, the likes Icke and Cooper are semi-dellusional, greedy, intelligent individuals...but there is a point when the fine line between coincidence and conspiracy starts to become a bit of a blur, and suddenly, certain things become possible that weren't before. Information. Raw and unadultered. As my history teacher taught me back in the day, no information source is useless...everything can tell you something. It all depends on how how process it. How you interpret it. Indeed, there is some fiction to the truth of the content of this site, and others like it...bt for someone in the field of UFOs, surely you can't deny that some people out there think you're stupid for pursuing it. But that doesn't make you believe any different.

    As for "unsubstantiated claims", look at the whole website, and not just these two mild celebrities. Believe me...you want proof, you keep searching. I think you'll find what you're looking for. It's all there. Bush senior's claims on 9/11/91 of a "new world order", how the twin towers crumbled to dust for no apparent reason, how the terrorists' names were taken off of the airline records...

    And, yes...there are other sources out there, but this was the first one that came to mind as I was typing my last post. There's some that I remember right now:

    http://members.tripod.com/therev67/edfu_cpu/edfu-cpu.htm should hold your interest in your serach for extra terrestrials.

    http://www.operationmorningstar.com/13_illuminati_bloodlines.htm and yes, third from the bottom says Merovingian...the Brothers knoew what they were doing...not to mention a whole host of other interesting names.

    I'll try and find you a nice little family tree that actually traces back bloodlines (from official documents) from the U.S. presidents, back to our Queen, and before that to the German Kaisers, and then to the French Merovingians, then back to the Romans, and then the Greeks, before making a final pit stop at ancient Egypt (Ramses II to be precise) and some even date it back to the Sumerian civilisation, and then, of course, the whole theory of Atlantis kicks in.

    Anyone for happy families? /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
    Liquid_MAX, Dec 7, 2003
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  2. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    CreeD, Dec 8, 2003
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  3. Dandy_J

    Dandy_J Well-Known Member

    dude, you KNOW it's all about "____ .cjb.net", that shits got CLASS!
     
    Dandy_J, Dec 8, 2003
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  4. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Ok, As far as assuming that Vfers are geneally liberal, perhaps that comes from my being optimistic and selctively reading mostly anti-Bush threads and Vf technique threads, neither of which will give one a full grasp of the people on the site. If someone says that there are some racists/homophobes/sexists/nuttychristians on the site then I will take his or her word for it, especially if they have 1000 times as many posts as me. Also if you and Mr. Bungle are not rightward-leaning, well then, sorry.

    Racism etc. just permeates the world and definitely America. It is maddening. Especially hearing stupid white folks who barely ever leave their homestates and somehow think they know enough to say that racism isn't that bad or that minorities need to stop complaining and get over it.

    I wish people would stop wasting their time talking about the illuminati, etc. There are enough not-so- secret conspiracies that are visible if you just look. For example:

    1992- The Clintons try to establish national healthcare to remedy the embarrassing fact that we are the only first world country without it. Millions of Americans would have benefitted. Drug companies and insurance companies spend millions on commercials,lobbying and campaign contributions to persuade citizens to believe that the plan was bad for them and convince legislators not to damage the gravy train that is the American medical system. It was all legal and yet terribly corrupt.

    2003- With record deficits, an exploding national debt, and an illegal expensive war going on, Bush signs a bill that will give drug companies $4,000,000,000 for drugs that they can price however they want. Drug companies' stock prices rise dramatically. All of the millions that drug companies spend on campaign contributions come back a hundredfold. It is all legal and horribly corrupt. Legalized corruption is the norm.
    Just a couple examples.
     
    DissMaster, Dec 9, 2003
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  5. Liquid_MAX

    Liquid_MAX Well-Known Member

    Yeah, basically.
     
    Liquid_MAX, Dec 11, 2003
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  6. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    I know you asked about Bush, but I recently received this in an email, a quote from Rumsfeld taken shortly before the War against Iraq, and found it to be both amusing and frightening at the same time:

    source: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1111/1827_305/90333346/p5/article.jhtml?term=

    [ QUOTE ]
    Given the amount of political capital that can be raised from an electorate sedated with the drug of fear, it's no wonder that our field commanders on the podiums in Washington never tire of discovering, once and sometimes twice a week, yet another terrorist threat lurking under the Brooklyn Bridge, disembarking from a plane in Chicago, driving a rented truck north toward Boston or south to Tallahassee. Nor is it any wonder that some of the leading figures in the administration don't bother to hide their disdain for an audience so easily deceived. When I listen to Attorney General Ashcroft, I'm never sure whether he intends an artful lie or believes himself to be relaying a message from God, but when I listen to Secretary Rumsfeld or Vice President Cheney, I know that I'm in the presence of cynical politicians who enjoy playing the game of Washington charades. Rumsfeld is particularly good at the tone of contemptuous irony. Last autumn, when the U.S. Air Force was bombing Afghanistan, Rumsfeld often appeared at the Pentagon press briefings to jokingly disparage the disinformation that he was passing off as truth. In Brussels for a meeting of the NATO allies in early June he elaborated the style of his performance, and to a crowd of reporters asking about the progress of the war on terrorism, he delivered a speech worthy of the riddling fool in one of Shakespeare's enchanted forests:


    The message is that there are no
    "knowns." There are things we know
    that we know. There are known unknowns.
    That is to say there are things
    that we now know we don't know. But
    there are also unknown unknowns.
    There are things we don't know we
    don't know. So when we do the best
    we can and we pull all this information
    together, and we then say well, that's
    basically what we see as the situation,
    that is really only the known knowns
    and the known unknowns. And each
    year, we discover a few more of those
    unknown unknowns.... There's another
    way to phrase that and that is
    that the absence of evidence is not evidence
    of absence.


    Just so, and no more questions need be asked about why you and I and little sister Susie will soon be going off to jail. "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence," and although none of us knows that we've been thinking unknown Arab thoughts (Susie's only twelve), Mr. Rumsfeld knows, and so does Mr. Ashcroft; they've been listening to the tapes and looking at the pictures, and there among the power points, the absent evidence, and the known unknowns, they've found us in a tent with a camel and Scheherazade.

    COPYRIGHT 2002 Harper's Magazine Foundation
    COPYRIGHT 2002 Gale Group

    [/ QUOTE ]
     
    Myke, Dec 11, 2003
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  7. L33

    L33 Well-Known Member

    it's much worse than Shakespeare /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I get what he's saying but couldn't he have worded it a little better? i think he's purposely trying to throw us off lol. He could've just said: "We know stuff but not that much. There are still things that we don't know about." lol. That last sentence was even more confusing to me than the whole paragraph. "...the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." WTF are you talking about?? (excuse my language)
     
    L33, Dec 11, 2003
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  8. pkg_inc

    pkg_inc Well-Known Member

    I know, found it in the paper some weeks ago, but unfortanely, the paper got lost before I could get myself to write it off. He got an award called "boot in mouth" or something... The second place went to Arnold Schwarzengger (however it might be spelled). He said something like: " gay marriage is a thing that should only be shared between a man and a woman". /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif hihi
     
    pkg_inc, Dec 12, 2003
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