I'm actually a little disappointed that you can't change around the customs like I originally thought they were advertising, but I didn't look at it as a big deal. I think the Yakuza music in the game is kind sick though. The tournament stage music is flames.

Taking a break, but going to do a couple arcade runs with the Yakuza tracks. VF3 arranged tracks are great, and the Yakuza tracks are nice but I've only smapled them so far. Doing wall combos to Lonliness Loop, is the new standard in fighting games

I can read and i can remember too. It is not about whom mocked whom 1st, it is about the fact of being mocked for criticizing DLC pack and sarcastically labeling it as "Dressing your Virtual Dolls" and being directed at us but not SEGA who made effort to put them in 1st place, but not criticizing sarcastically how SEGA trying to avail their customers with these releases plans and us disliking DLC content and its pricing is not equal to mocking others with "Dressing Doll" cause it is unproductive and immature lol

Of course it is easier to criticize others and not be critical of your own posts, but the main difference here is i am talking about my opinion and experience of others reactions, because whenever we say something, someone jumps out and repeat defensive points for SEGA or VF as it is so already knew we would get a negative reaction from VF "Loyals" if i can say as most respectful word since some are upset with being called "Dorks" from @SDS_Overfiend1 instead of being upset being treated as one from SEGA lol so that's why i had to put it it within my 1st posts criticizing DLC, It is inevitable consequence anyway so why not address it from the beginning too?

So yeah

Imagine being this mad at the DLC, lol.

I am not gonna repeat myself neither if anybody missed the point, also i didn't attack anyone by "dorks"; i just mentioned why @SDS_Overfiend1 may have said it and your reaction to it obsessively.

Thanks for your disciplining and discussion policing effort anyway Mr.Akai

Not worse than being happy about it with this condition and praise SEGA no matter what like an unpaid cheerleader all year ^_-

Imagine having a orgasm over DLC thats underwhelming, lol

The DLC is legit though.

Hoping we get a Burning Rangers or Gunvalkeryie collab next so they can finally add air-dashes and air-evades in VF.

Hey, does anyone here feel that the game looks worse since the latest update?
I've never had issues with VF5US graphics. I think it's one of the best looking 3D fighters out there (other than some questionable re-design choices on some of the fighters' faces).
But after the Yakuza update, the game now is looking more pixelated (resolution downgrade), the shadow effects look ugly, and I'm playing on the PS4-Pro
They might do this to improve on Online play, but when I can say that Tekken 7 now is looking much better then there's a real problem here LOL.
And yea, I don't like what they have done with the "transparent walls". They look rough and these need to be fixed on future updates for sure.

Yoooooo I thought it just me. I was looking at the details on Vanessa pants and it seemed blurry. I thought I messed up my TV settings or something but the game seems to have lost resolution tremendously.

DLC could've been cool if they already fixed the core issues of the game, which they didn't. So it's hard for me to care much about things like addition of some new skins.

I guess at this point all i say is it's time for VF6. And hopefully they'll got it right from day one. (Quest Mode, Rollback netcode, a lot of content ect)

The VF3 are brand new arrangements?

I like this DLC, but it's only Costume D, this means that there will be maybe 2 other DLC with Costume E and S each, and since they are terrible slow even at remaking some simple items, it will took them the entire 2022 to release both.

Forgive me, but I don't understand all the hate Ultimate Showdown is receiving. SEGA was clear about it, from the beginning. VF5US is a very small project, online focused, made for the 60th anniversary of the company. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a small budget title with a low selling price and two DLC packs that are not required to play the game.

So, I don't understand why people act like SEGA fooled them, like they delivered a game that had nothing to do with the game they promised in the first place?

Sorry, but I can't blame them because Ultimate Showdown is not the VF I had in mind, because it's not VF6, because it's not like SIFU and because it's not like Gran Turismo 7.

Forgive my bad English. Love you all.

@Shinobi

good point. You're right Sega never promised anything beyond a small e-sports version of VF. The did say that it was made for the 60th anniversary so you are also correct in reminding us of that.

I guess the problem comes with how they named the edition outside of Japan. They've named it Virtua Fighter Ultimate Showdown. This causes some fans (myself included) to expect more than a simple e-sports knock off

For example if you read Seiji Aoki's blog

https://blog.playstation.com/2021/05/31/virtua-fighter-5-ultimate-showdown-remaking-a-legend/

he makes the following comment:

"Sega’s 60th Anniversary, a massive community project celebrating the most iconic games over our entire company history, finally provided us that opportunity. Sega put together a new team of developers from AM2, the original creators of the VF series, and Ryu Ga Gotoku Studios – combining extensive console expertise with a deep passion for the franchise to kick off development on a definitive Virtua Fighter game for the new generation. "

So when I read the phrase definitive Virtua Fighter game I was expecting a little more than a e-sports knock off of VF.

So Seiji Aoki and RGG can't have it both ways. Either the game is a simple 60th anniversary celebration and ode to the Virtua Fighter series or it is the definitive Virtua Fighter game for the new generation. Seiji Aoki can't have it both ways.


So I think part of the problem of all the hate are the mixed messages that were sent by RGG and Sega at launch.

You're right, it was clear that this was a budget edition aimed to japanese esport scene, with sales expectations set very low.

That said, when your game is downloaded by 10 million of people, greatly surpassing your own (Sega) expectations, the game's scope MUST change to reflect that success.

Of course, if instead they want to mantain VF a niche game with barely any relevance only in Japan, they are doing a fine job with VF5US...

That's not hating on VF, it's critiques and feedback, i already mentioned things that I like (loading times , graphical up, new musics are awesome), but they totally failed in terms of game modes and specially netcode. I mean I can even forgive the lack of quest and other game modes specially since it's online based, we already suspect it with the eSports codename. But not the Jurassic netcode, a 2021 fighting game that is mainly based in online matchmaking but has some of the worst possible netcode is intolerable imo. Sega need to get themselves together.

So again, hopefully they're aware and make sure VF6 will be nailed in every aspects since day one.

Exactly! They shouldn't advertise it to us like this! Mixed statements cause confusion...

But our opinions/criticism still reamins. Just because something ought to be simple or anniversary version and not definitive edition, doesn't mean we can't expect better results, especially that VF5US is gonna be another VF5FS but with lower expectation, no better changes expect in graphics(which could be better, including faces), and more cash grab methods by periodically cheap DLCs that can be already in the game if they want to.

Actually VF fans excepted to have aggresive vitriol reactions after waiting 9 years for VF6 then it comes VF5 Ultimate emptiness showdown from SEGA. Like we wouldn't even mind if They released VF5FS with rollback netcode in new generation platforms better than investing on VF5US with cheap DLC milking route.

Just because you announced that you will release a game that won't be fully packaged or do not have features, items people wanted, doesn't deny the fact it is still BAD and declining. For example someone told their neighbors that they gonna throw a nasty trash that has strong long distanced smell, the fact he told them that doesn't change the fact it is still a TRASH and neighbors can still complain lol

We just expected more and better treatment, even for an "Anniversary" version let alone Seiji Aoki's blog statements calling it "Definitive Virtua Fighter".

That's all.

To be fair, if you got the game for "free" as part of the PS+ Offer, assuming that you also purchased both the DLCs (DLC1+DLC2), the game costs only 1/3 of the total price I paid for Tekken 7 (standard edition) at launch date so far.

Constructive criticisms are always good for the game especially if it is for the franchise that you really like. But if you really want to complain about contents, then please wait at least until "four" more major updates with DLCs. If by then the game is still lacking then complain all you want considering this game is not a simple port but has been built from the ground up using the Dragon engine.

Pretty much what they are doing now is recouping the development cost for the game, taking feedbacks for the development of VF6, and profiting from this project whenever they could. Most likely this profit (if any) would contribute into the development for VF6.

We are on "Season 0" so far. They are planning to run this project until "Season 2", that is until June 2024, when they would most likely announce/release VF6 for the PS5, Xbox Series X, and PC with Rollback-netcode.

I would say that most major DLCs would be released at least until the end of "Season 1" ending June 2023. After S1, all of their focus would be to release VF6 by mid 2024, while still running tournaments for "Season 2".

For those ppl still complaining about "Hit Sparks" in VF5US, I'm sorry to tell you that it is NOT going to change for this game. This is an E-Sport game so they want consitency in their tournaments. So turning Off HS will never be an option, even if you cry for the next two years or so. Your best bet would be when VF6 comes out, you would hope that they would have come out with something better to replace the HS.

So, yeh, let's be a little bit patient and continue to support "Virtua Fighter" as Best as we could, especially if you really like the franchise and really wanna see VF6 comes to fruitition. That's it, folks!