Virtua Fighter is a Martial Art

Yes, Virtual Martial Art would make sense.

 

Well, I guess if you could throw your copy of VF5 vanilla with enough force and precision to dissuade a mugger from kicking your ass and stealing your watch, then you really would be a VF master po.

And now, I wish to hear the wet mop on dirty floor analogy.

 

LOL, I found this interesting:

http://www.thearma.org/essays/Defining-A-Martial-Art.html#.VBG0Q-NKm7N

I've found some of the responses in this post to be absolutely enlightening. It is clear that a new level of VF player has emerged. We know that we have:

noobs - those fresh to the VF scene, do know much about it yet but like the game.

casuals - those who appreciate the game and play it from time to time , even
heavily at times

intermediates - play more regularly than casuals, have nailed the move lists for one
or more characters, have a fundamental understanding of the
mechanics of the game have played 1000+ matches SP, VS or Online
some frame knowledge application, and character match up information
may have 3 or 4 five hit combos for at least one character worked out

advanced - play more regularly than intermediates, have mastered the movelists
and mechanics of the game for at least one character, many of these
place high in tournaments, will travel to compete, and typically have
played many 1000's of matches, in many cases have advanced
frame knowledge application, and will can have many 4,5, and 6 hit
combos worked out for one or more characters.

As a result of the discussion had in this thread, we are now able to add to this list:

VF Martial Artist those who recognize VF as

a codified fighting game system and tradition of virtual combat engagement, and who engage in that virtual combat for a variety of reasons: competition,entertainment, and in some cases mental, physical, and spiritual development. who typically appreciate and accept and celebrate all levels of VF player, and who have typically played many thousands of matches, and who strive for excellence in all aspects of the virtua fighter experience, combat system and community and who have come to the understanding that Virtua Fighter is a quasi-martial-art


To be sure , I don't know how many other VF Martial Artists there are in the VF Community, but I do know, that I'm one of them

 

Do you practice a real martial art or are you trying to be all zen and call vf a material art, which is an insult to us real martial artists.

 

VFDC Martial Artists.

Osu.

 

Yes I do practice, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. And I am suggesting that VF is
its own kind of martial art. And at the very least it is a quasi-martial art. And I am one of the people who practice VF as a martial art. If that is an insult to you as a 'real martial artist' then of course you have both my sympathies and apologies, but as a practicing martial artist myself there is nothing that you could post on a gaming web site that would or could insult me I don't know about your training, but it takes a lot more than posts about a video game to insult me When I'm insulted there are usually repercussions for the person who did the insulting

 

Vf may be an art form, but to me, not a martial art. You can have your own opinion, I can't take that from anyone, but please do not call vf a marital art. Vf, 2 years of proper training you have mastered it, 12 years of proper hap-ki do training and you've only just begun.

 

Agreed. At the end of the day, its just a game. A very good game, but just a game.

 

Dhaval Katbamna I understand your point, and it is a very good point. But I'm curious about your martial arts philosophy. I've got a few questions for you and @Hui_Xiu

1) What is your definition of a martial art?

2) Do you consider all martial arts equal or the same?

3) Do you feel there is a difference between weapon-based, vs hand-to-hand martial arts?

4) Is it possible to create any new martial arts or have all the martial arts been created?

5) Do you believe it is possible to have simulated martial arts?

6) Do you believe it is possible to have virtual martial arts of any kind?

7) Do all martial arts require physical contact?

8) Were the famous kamikaze attacks martial art techniques?

9) In your opinion is the content of Sun TZU's art of war book about martial arts?

10) @Dhaval ,@Hui_Xiu Does a video game that contains the terms judo, vale tudo, shaolin kung fu, jujitsu, karate, kick boxer, wrestler, strike, block, throw, and has characters that interact with digital renderings of hand-to-hand combat, where there is a timer, a ring, a winner, a loser, a potential tie, spectators, participants, thousands of hours of practice involved, hundreds, thousands of contests, champions, high level's of skill and endurance,
legends, and ranks have anything at all to do with martial arts?


I'm asking you Dhaval Katbamna and Hui_XIU these questions because I'm trying to learn how much you really know about martial arts, the history of martial arts, and all the cultures from different countries that have made contributions to the martial arts. I'm just curious.
I ask because I am a student of the martial arts, I have been for a very long time.

So far I've seen none of you post anything about the code of ethics in some martial arts. For example Bushido.

I saw none of you post anything about respect and honor that is involved with some martial arts like in Xiaolin Kung fu.

I've seem none of you post about your responsibilities as a martial artist


I can't help but wonder if you guys really know what it means to be a true martial artists.

What is a martial artist without a code of ethics, a moral code, respect, honor, a sense of duty, and civic responsibility? What is a martial art if it does not develop the inner self as well as the outer self? What is a martial art if it does not build bonds between brothers?

Yea among other martial arts that I practice, I do practice the martial art of Virtua Fighter. If you and Hui_XIU can't understand this, then it shows me you are still on the journey of discovering what martial art is really all about. Give yourself more time to learn and to grow and to understand the ways of give and take. If we have the wisdom to learn, all may teach us their virtues. Take my art and consider the Xiaolin style: from the crane we learn grace and self control. The snake teaches us suppleness and rhythmic endurance. The praying mantis teaches us speed and patience. And from the tiger we learn tenacity and power. And from the dragon we learn to ride the wind. Life sustains life, and all living creatures need nourishment. Yet with wisdom, the body learns to sustain in ways that all may live. Is this not the way of a true martial artist? In training we are taught that where there is no contention, there is neither defeat nor victory. The supple willow does not contend against the storm, yet it survives. Of course martial art is more than just physical damage to your opponent or avoiding physical damage to yourself!!! To know nature is to put oneself in perfect harmony with the universe. So must we seek a discipline of mind and body within ourselves. I have found that a certain amount of discipline of the mind and body can be achieved through the practice of Virtua Fighter.

Obviously for some, Virtua Fighter is a mere game (a good game, but only a game), fortunately I do not count myself among those. I am fortunate enough to look beyond the stick/controller and the screen to see a higher knowledge, a knowledge beyond frames, advantages, disadvantages, OMs and DMs. a knowledge beyond fuzzy guard, yomi, movelists character match ups and combos. I now understand that Virtua Fighter is its own kind of Martial Art, a new martial art for the digital world we now find ourselves in.

Perhaps, over time, and with much introspection you, Hui_XIU, YOMI, Unicorn, MarlyJay, and others will come to realize that Virtua Fighter is its own kind of Martial Art worthy of practicing and competing. I can only lead you to the pond, I cannot make you drink. I can only bring you to the door, I cannot make you walk through it.

In my life I have fought over 50,000 VF matches a mix of Single player, VS mode, and Online. I have thousands of hours in Virtua Fighter, and countless hours in the dojos of Virtua Fighter 4, EVO, 5, and now VF5FS. And I now understand VF as a new breed of martial art.

For those who will never agree with me, of course you have my sympathies.

For those who agree with me, welcome my brother and sister VF martial artists, welcome to the new world!

 

Really, new martial art for the virtual world. Are the Israelis practicing Krav maga on their opressors or virtua fighter. Tell me, how is virtua fighter a form of self defense?

 

LOL, it depends on what you are defending yourself against my friend.... not all martial arts work against all attacks!

If you are honest with yourself, you can imagine a kind of attack, that Virtua Fighter would be the perfect form of defense for

Free your mind, there are many kinds of attacks, and many kinds of attackers, physical, spiritual, virtual and digital. Is it not good to have a martial art for the physical world?, a martial art for the spiritual world?, a martial art for the virtual and digital worlds?

A person can attack and defend in many worlds. No joke, I know ppl who are more devastated to lose in a video fighting game in front of others than they would be if they got physically beat up in private.

Of course, the Israelis are not using Virtua Fighter as their preferred martial art, but what if the Israelis and their oppressors agreed to settle their differences in a VF tournament? Surely the world would be a better place. Not all differences have to be settled by physical violence, and a true martial artist can win a contest using many techniques.

For example: There are guys attacking each other in the VF shout box as I type this post, and VF is the best form of defense and attack for those guys LOL

 

Ok, im done with this conversation these walls of text and the logic that if you need to protect the weak from oppression and you could just tell the oppressor "hey, lets settle this in a match of VF" makes no sense. Martial arts have always been about helping those that are too weak to help themselves, do you think that Korea could have defended itself from the japanese oppression through VF?

 

Of course VF is not a physical martial art. And Korea could not have used it to fend off physical oppression from the Japanese.

But it is a digital martial art and it can be used for digital combat and sport, and can be used to stop digital oppression. For example: the next time we meet on PSN you can demonstrate your VF skills, and I can demonstrate mine Through that contest I will teach you some of the spiritual lessons I've learned through competing in VF. There are some very important martial art lessons to be learned when playing master po, and usually digital oppression comes to an end

 

no

 

This kid is a riot.

I do agree with a lot of what you are saying. I thought of another good example; calligraphy. I think the movie Yingxiong (Hero, the Jet Li one) shows this well. The character Broken Sword expresses his martial ability through his calligraphy. So I think the same can be done with multiple means, i.e. Virtua Fighter. We already mentioned cooking and go, but there is also the art of tea, painting, poetry and debate. Of course Wu De (ethics) are an essential part of martial arts. Otherwise, its just violence.

I think all of this shouldn't be taken all that seriously, as the spirit of martial arts is not something that can be put in a box. Everyone should be able to find out what it means to themselves through practice, cultivation and testing oneself.

 

Excellent!!!! the only point I disagree with above is that I am not a kid I look just like my avatar LOL

 

Haha, ok Lao yeye

 

Look, I'm a fat old man who never applied myself. I always dreamed about learning martial arts, but it seemed too tiring. I do like video games and I can beat the hell out of my retarded nephew. I gotz da skills.

Maybe I should post on an online forum about how much I like a game (like, I would suck SEGA's dick if possible [lol no port of FT, vf5 ps3 exclusive]) but fill every comment ever with as much eastern mysticism as possible.
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Like you can even praise all the VF legends here in Japan, but the only mastery they seem to have beyond this game is:

Having a shitty desk job
Smelling like cigarettes
Wasting money on a shit game
Yelling やばぇぇ when launched
Not fucking their significant others/or fucking their 3DS'

They got that shit down like a martial art too! Maybe you should learn from them?

 

R U only on Xbox? If not lets hook up on PSN for a few matches..... and
some martial arts exhibition

 

Sorry no PS3 for me. I am cheap. Maybe if you're on the east coast at some point; then we can battle.