Virtua Fighter 6

Yeah I played Quest for a bit but it didn't seem the same. I really liked the way kumite was structured in terms of the way it progressed and escalated with the ranked opponents. It had a really nice flow to it.

And, of course, unlocking treasure was great, especially new clothing items for Pai . I remember there were these orbs that would appear and accumulate if you had an unbroken streaks and whatnot. When you had a set number of orbs something awesome happened. I can't remember what exactly, probably more treasure. I really enjoyed it and played for hours. Maybe it's because VF5 fighting just didn't click with me in general so the quest mode fell flat.

Unfortunately my copy of VF5 was stolen. I would be very curious to check it out now after playing Final Showdown for a while.

 

Dude, have you actually been online on PSN to verify what you are saying? I can play for hours with opponent after opponent without arranging anything. FS is very far from dead.

Please make sure you are selecting "worldwide" and ranked match. There are many, many people playing online at all hours of all skill levels. And it's not just the same faces as well.

 

I certainly hope that's true.

However, I don't think PSN on PS3 will cost anything, right? That's only for PS4....or so I thought...

 

PSN on PS3 is still free. On PS4 it'll be a paid service.

 

Sorry for chiming in this thread late. But I understand Happy F's frustration. We all know how to blow up 2p it's not hard at all. However as a spectacle to people who don't follow VF's thats specifically what they see. Granted they don't know the game etc.. That's what always being pointed out to me.

"All the game is 2p > throw etc.."

I know experimented in early VF5 beta with making 2p slower in certain stances or something. I remember Shou posting about it somewhere.

It's a bit hard to do something about 2p without changing the game's mechanics.

 

I wonder how it would work if everybodys basic NH kneespeed launcher would easily crush low punches in VF6.. (a 'tekken' solution) Would it solve the lowpunch "problem" or at least give an illusion of it...

One thing that particularly bugs me about low punches in VF is that they are not punishable when sidestepped.

ps. I don't have a REAL problem with low punches, but like Jide said above, it matters what the game looks like.

 

Tweaking the frame values on 2P wouldn't do anything to the games mechanics

@chun Online is not even in the same galaxy as offline, even if you have fast internet, with a low ping. Frames don't hold up, you can't proper punish, your movement is delayed, moves have uneven execution, combos drop, and inputs fail. That isn't VF, but go ahead and keep telling yourself that it is..


Then again you also think playing on a UK to U.S.A. connection is good VF so whatever with you.

 

Yeah okay we get that playing online is not the same as playing offline. So what would you suggest then? Not playing online because it's not perfect?

Unfortunately, due to the laws of physics, playing someone sitting on the same sofa as you is never going to be the same as playing someone in another city or halfway around the world. But it's still a great and entertaining fighter to play with players online even if it isn't quite frame-perfect VF.

You're a purist, and that's cool, but you can also just relax and enjoy online play for what it is.

 

I can't enjoy online FS, the netcode is to rancid. Online play is ok, not in PSN FS though, it's absolutely disgusting. SF4 and DOA5Ultimate run way better, people that live 10 minutes away from each other get horrendous lag on PSN FS for F's sake! LIVE has to be better and it's fine if people like playing the online madness, but with the uber damage and tracking, I find any frame lag unacceptable. If they made a less embarrassing game it would likely play out better online.

 

I guess the definition of "dead" is different for different people.

As long as I can find a game to play, even if it's against a low-level mashy scrub, and I'm able to enjoy myself, then it isn't dead.

For me, dead is SC5. I can't remember the last time I found a match online with that game. And when I did, the lag made PSN VF5FS feel like a lag-less arcade experience.

But, hey, to each his own...

 

For me a game is dead when you have to ask people for games, and if you don't, you sit in player matches for a couple hours straight thinking to yourself where it all went wrong.

Also fuck ranked. Many people I've played have very different styles when their precious rank is on the line compared to room matches or w/e and not in a good way, it's pathetic.

 

If VF would go the Tekken route of having low crushing launchers galore, then I think the game would have to take a more Tekken-like approach to the whole metagame surrounding hopkicks, like if every character would have a near instantly low crushing hopkick, the hopkick would then have to be only like -13 on block, which would mean every character would have to be given a good -13 punisher to discourage just throw out hopkicks with miminum risk and high reward, with the current system where 90% of the cast gets just jabs and +4 situation for -13, which is nothing due to the ECD + LTE, the reward would greatly outweight the risk. Besides, I think that getting punished for attemping a simple and basic, core concept of the VF series as the 2P at a wrong time with a full-blown launcher, which gets extra damage due to recovery counter hit, is a bit harsh. Instead I'd like to see something like an universal overhead in 3rd Strike where every character would have a fast (maybe 16-17f?), instantly (~1f) low crushing, safe on block mid move that would only give either negative or +-0 advantage on normal hit but a stagger/extra advantage on crouch hit, essentially a low crushing elbow, but incorrect use of this move could be interrupted with a high jab into a small float combo. This, I think, would solve the "2P problem" without completely nerfing 2P to shit nor would the move itself be so overpowering some people seem to think it is.

 

They should be scared and they'd be new FS'ers (Final Spammers).

 

Yeah, yeah, says the DoA player. Could you and your buddy's agenda be more transparent? VF haters with ghetto connections who get demolished at offline stuff anyway, I mean seriously, no need to equip troll avatars guys, it's there for all to see anyhow.

 

I started with VF4, I play offline, you play online, cool story bro.

 

Honestly at this point it just seems like you're trolling... You're not half the player that I am, anyone could tell you that if you asked them. Know your place. If you opened your eyes you would see that almost everyone complains about the lag on PSN.....

 

Yet the two top players in both the States and Europe trained themselves up online, and still play on there heavily. Just how hungry are you to still play VF?

Hardly any of us here live near a Japanese arcade, so it is what is *shrug* I personally think the netcode is fine on FS, and they did a good job with it, compared to many other fighters out there I've tried over the years. Ironically, if you lived on the other side of Canada, and had decent broadband, I would happily play you regardless of how amazing you are. It seems like your whole interaction with the game and this forum though, is to just get a rise out of people, so y'know really, I'm indifferent to what you do or say. I'll just carry on regardless trying to learn and enjoy what I feel is a cool Sega game

 

You can believe in what you want, and I can believe in what I want, so I don't see why you chalk it up as trolling. Yes the two top players do play online, but they sure as hell don't worship it the way you do. You're pretty much the only person I've seen in VFDC say that the PSN netcode is fine for FS. My interaction with the game is just fine when it's offline, but I don't like online - deal with it. Please do carry on and enjoy playing FS, you're entitled to do whatever the hell you want and no one can say otherwise obviously.