Virtua Fighter 6

Sorry hseiken but i'm going to have to go ahead and assume you missed the part where the devs said FS would be the final iteration of VF5

 

how is this advertisment?

 

It helped to promote the game at the time, and raise awareness of how FS had changed from regular VF5. Chibita's obviously revered within the long term VF scene, and Fuudo's name helped attract some of the SF players who knew him from that, so it was a pretty cool way to advertise the new changes, graphics and pro-level play all at the same time.

 

I hope VF6 has huge changes. In FS there is far too much utility in: evade cancel, backdash, and poking. I am probably as good as I am going to get (which isn't very good) at FS bc I really don't want to be wiggling the stick all the time: 24433811244866 and crouching fuzzy is sort of annoying too.

I think they should probably go back to FT/evo general gameplay system, easier nitaku, weaker backdash (in FT iirc), less 'property moves.' If they want to standardize the throws, give everybody 463 and neutral. I really miss splash mountain and just the 33 motion for a throw. And I really liked the amount of string as somewhere between 3 and 4's level - that is to say that it would be cool to be able to get a handle on them without dedicating your life to VF.

I think that maybe Sega has painted themselves into a corner with the # of characters. The pressure for a fighting game is to always add more characters, but if the gameplay really can only support a certain number of chars who are actually unique, then that number can be a bigger problem bc it seems that you have to add weird wacky gameplay. Of everybody added after VF3, I only really think that Lei and maybe Blaze are cool. I could do w/o brad (shoo shoo), goh (eat everything move), monkey (unknowable strings and monkey hop), tranny (magic tranny abare elbow and the tranny mount!), jean (not so bad, but still pretty unknowable w/his weird strings).

Maybe I am hopelessly jaded and old school when it comes to VF, but probably not as much as some people since at least I still play...

 

Good luck getting people to agree with you on that. Also, calling Vanessa 'tranny' is kind of offensive for a lot reasons, especially considering they made her considerably more feminine in 5...

 

I agree with him on the amount of characters. i've feared since FS was announced that if we were to get a VF6 that the amount of characters would have reached the absurd (for my personal tastes).

It's pretty much a given that they'd have to add one or two more characters, trying to entice newer players without doing so isn't going to happen. I'd really rather they didn't add two more characters though, or if they did then at least go back and get rid of some of the weaker characters, Eileen would get my first vote (sorry Marly and Tricky!).

 

Yeah, she obviously had some work done between 4 and 5. She is not a bad looking post-op transsexual in 5. I never implied there was anything wrong with that and I hope that she is able to find fulfillment in her new body.

 

Bleh. I feel this way about Blazblue, but not VF. Compared to pretty much any other fighter (especially tekken), I don't feel like anybody is redundant...except for maybe Eileen, yeah, and I hate FS Brad but I liked him alot previously.

 

So you guys want to get rid of Eileen who is one of the most unique characters in any fighting game? That makes no sense.

If we're going to get rid of characters lets kill off Lau and just give some of his moves to Pai. They have similar styles anyways. Taka also doesn't bring anything new to the game even though his fighting style is unique and I guess they could always get rid of Sarah and just give jacky some of her stuff but most likely they want him to remain pure Jeet Kun Do so they'll keep her.

 

For me personally , it isn't that I think that they are redundant; it's that the unique factors about them typically introduce wacky mechanics or aspects that veer further and further from what I consider to be the core of VF.

 

I understand the idea, but at the same time, Shun Di is the most anti-core VF character of all, and he's from VF2.

Eileen isn't unique at all, playstyle wise. I guess Taka isn't either, but I love him and don't want him to be taken out. I'll never understand the hate Lau gets. He's one of the easier characters to grasp, is high tier, and he's been around since VF1, yet he's in the running for least popular character in the game. There's no logic behind it, he should be a lot more popular. Some of those things also apply to Taka, but he's not been around as long, and everybody hates Sumo wrestlers: See E.Honda being the second least popular world warrior, and Ganryu ranking dead last for the entire series in that facebook poll for Tekken x SF. Taka is so much more imposing than either of them though, he could literally step on Ganryu.

 

I say this do not and I repeat do not remove Lau, he is one of the best and unique character as is everyone else. So instead of removing characers just add new ones to each vf game and its not like there are a lot of characters in vf, there are only up to 20 characters including dural and vf has been around for 20 years. I could see 2 new characters added in vf 6 if there is a vf6 and 2 more in the update so its all good.

 

What does "easier nitaku" mean? The game is core VF seeing as how they took out alot of stuff from VF5 that was anti-VF, and stuck to things that are essential in VF. Weren't the number of strings increased for some characters and decreased for others? Maybe I'm just thinking of utility?

 

It means more stuff that on block is not fuzzy guardable. You have to guess whether you will be thrown or mid hit.

And yeah, Shun could go and that would be fine with me. Aoi has also been turned into a super wacky char too imo.

 

Whatever Sega does I just want them to go full throttle and get behind it outside of Japan.

The pre-launch event they did for FS was good, but it didn't reach anybody that wasn't already into VF (heck I'm into VF and I didn't even know about the event until years later). Keeping it in Japanese arcades for years then finally throwing the west a few bones isn't how you get your name out there.

To be fair, they've done an excellent job this year in promoting FS (Sega Cups). But, it's time to let VF5 go.

As for characters, the only one I'd get rid of is Shun, as I hate him...so very very much. But even with that, the characters in this game are unique. The closest thing to redundancy is that a few characters share a few moves (the Bryants, the Chans). Other than that, every character can stay (with some tweaking) and add 1 more character to make it an even 20.

 

Why are folk so adamant about keeping Eileen?

Even if it's in jest, i've heard Eileen players mention that El Blaze is pretty much the same character as her but with better tools.

They could just give you the choice to dress Blaze as a pre-teen monkey girl thing and we'd all be fine.

P.S Do not kill Lau.

 

It'd be a neat idea for Dural to actually be useful, they'd have to severely tweak her command list and what not. If they wanted to keep it "story" viable, they could use the Tsuki-Kage Dural from VF1,2, and 3 as a playable character (or hell just make Tsuki Kage a character). And Keep the Vanessa Dural as the mass produced final boss.

Sega has options...