Virtua Fighter 6

There are alot of complex fighting games now, like guilty gear, tekken and others, where you need lots of skill to have a slight chance against a better opponent. And they are still popular. So I think dombing down the game is not a way to make more people play it. Advertisement and fanservice do it.

I want the next vf become faster and more technical, like vf4 was, but not a vf4-clone.VF4 required alot of inputs during the play, and it made the game feel faster and more intense. I want that back )

And I also want my block-cancelable crouching backdash back... but it will be too brkoen without changing anything else i suppose)

 

I would be deeply shocked if they cocked it up to be perfectly honest. A big part of why I respect and adore SEGA so much: they haven't, over the last 20 years, let their flagship fighting game series turn to dogsh*t, like some other companies I can think of.

 

Dear Santa/Sega,

Bring back 8 frame throws. ie- light weight punch is faster, so it's more of a threat on ch @+8. Basically maintaining weight classes strengths like they should have been all along.

Bring back offensive move+p and naked om. ie-opponent's 2p is blocked @ -5, so they decide to 2p again and you om+p to their proper crouch stagger side mostly stomach and get a nice 14-15 frame move follow up. Naked om vs. wake up rising and nets you opponent whiff allowing launch etc.

Bring back more reward for blocking which WAS the reason why I fell in love with VF. ie- Kage 2k+g throw counterable/akira 666p throw counterable/el blaze 8p+k throw counterable lmao. Basically, if it can net you 65-70pts plus tech guess it should have a high risk.

Sabaki's should be limited like reversals to one level and not shutdown multiple levels. ie- p or 6p.

Recovery frames for everyone's moves need to be severely revamped.

Stop giving multiple easy ways out for the opponent in disadvantage. This really is just a marketing ploy to sell the games and everyone knows it.

Enforce true weight class physics like taka. ie-wolf/Jeff should not be able to step as fast as blaze etc. poor taka... @-@

If this all came to pass I'd be afraid we would lose 3/4 of the current players and that's already scarce.

Fasten your seatbelts kiddos, because this February were gonna see more whistles and bells added on to our once beloved core system. I have a strong feeling Sega loved the dlc numbers for fs and when it works to make money it's golden.

Just my opinion, so don't hate.
I'm vf4 generation and proud I had a chance to experience VF IMHO at its finest.

 

Akira's 666P was never throw counterable o_o

But i agree on editing the block punishment, there are alot of uncounterable launchers now. Making them at least throw counterable would be good.

At the sabakis I don't agree since it would kill them. They are already shutting down less moves than usual parries.

 

Huh? Who said anything about february?

 

That skill isn't what everyone wants in a fighting game, and that skill reduces the impotance of other skills, or reduces the amount of folks who can play the game at high level.

I think it's perfectly fine that some games remain executionfests, they are popular among some folks, but VF isn't about that- and if anything, should be streamlined further- there's a reason the VF community is older than other FGC's. (and you could see this hard at NEC, the VF folks bathed unlike some of the other communities)


Another change I'd want to see, evades no matter what you cancel them with, you can't block anti-evade attacks for a set number of frames. Also, why is crouch dashing still in the game? How would the game be impacted by eliminating crouch dashing?

One thing I want to see is characters have set weaknesses. The top tier chars have their weaknesses covered too much. Also damage is too high for much of the cast- the big guys and the super high risk guys are the only guys who should be able to do 100+ easily, even with a wall.

 

Lazy TE can be predicted and countered at least, though it really hurts Jeff, I don't necessarily think it needs to be gone.

I would like to see Splash back, make it 44P+G, and Jeff get a front grab that has RO potential (maybe an option off of headbutt?)

 

I like the posts in here that are long because it shows people care!

Some stuff mentioned has already been in VF or is already there so I'm wondering where pope are coming. For example, naked OM is still there for Oki.

VF4 didn't require a lot of inputs to play BUT it was an option for those that wanted to take it there. The best example is MTE. People that like to buffer 3-4 TEs could do it, but you could play it just using 1-2 if you prefferd (the exhibition matches on the disk used 1-2).

SEGA themselves messes up by not including the features from 4 like Stat Tracking that you now see in TTT2 regarding YOUR play style so I hope to see that stuff return.

4 series frame data and 5 style dash priority in one game is the only way I could see VF6 going at its core, really.

I think Lazy TE should stay in as it's a nice beginner tool, to get people used to do doing two things at once on defence which is one of the aspects that makes VF the best.

 

One route I really hope VF doesn't go is adding things to the screen like words or meter to the fights when something happens. The HUD of this game really is what makes this game immersive and fun without being told what happened and/or having to micro-manage.

 

I think the MTE system was ridiculous and I thank Sega for taking it out and switching to the new system. However, I also think the Lazy TE system with only one throw escape is a bit silly too since it's mostly just pure random guess work. I would like a Tekken style of TE system to be in the game, a one where you can escape throws on reaction thus eliminating the randomness, but I know how much VF neckbeards will start to froth from the mouth at a system like that, so I guess we will be having the current system in the future too.

 

Breaking throws on reaction will kill them. It's not tekken where throws can beat attacks. In vf throws have always been an universal way to break the block, and with reaction-breaking they will loose that usage. With the MTE system it was more logical though - you almost couldn't escape them while just standing, so you either block and be fully vunerable to throws, or you break them and be vunerable to attacks. That kinda resembled breaking throws on reaction, but still made them powerful and respectful to the whole vf logic. Now you just can escape one throw for the whole match.

 

The Japanese amusement arcade show is in February. It's that magical event that displays new VF clips as teasers.

 

Re-balance Jacky, do something about LTE throw system, nerf combos, nerf kingo.

Thx Sega.

 

You know I didn't intend it that way, so why try to stick it in my face like some scholar, childish.

As far as the sabakis, I was mainly referring to goh/Vanessa. I can see why you wouldn't want to change it since its a simple auto conditioner and shuts down close range options. It would be too much for goh/van players to handle if they had to make an educated guess. Better yet, make the sabaki just a sabaki and not have some physical property to it if the sabaki doesn't work. I seen these moves not work, but still get hit on the tail end of it.

Also for good measure, bring back the crouch staggers!!

Femto- naked om is in fs, but the properties have changed meaning vs rising attack it tracks based on all lying down body positions of opponent.

 

Ue

Failed evade itself being a huge disadvantage isn't enforced due to the ability of canceling it into a dash or crouch dash. Now I have heard it is susceptible to a free throw, but never had any success online. The idea of being able to get out of -20 something is just plain retarded to me, but it is what it is at this point. I often wonder if I'm ganked out if small advantages online or just reacting too slow? Having said that, your point of not having recovery frames doesn't make sense. Don't you think your opponent should be punished for failed evading? Otherwise, you can just walk around the arena all day.

 

That's exactly what I meant, that no matter what you did after an evade- you could be punished by an attack that is designed to punish that evade, so you couldn't crouch dash block to reduce the recovery frames

 

rebalance jacky? lol jacky's meant to have high dmg. he's a high risk high reward type of character. the down side to this is his simple command list which i hate. he's to predictable with his moves. thats y u see jacky players add there own mixup like backdash launch or throw to keep players guessing. with other characters like Va Kage Elblaze etc. they can do alot of mixups for every move they have.

 

Since were all giving opinions and such, i figure ill give a few simple idea's for Akira.

1). Allow his 3 , , to be a natural combo that fully CONNECTS and not only on side turn. The reason why i want this is because it's obsolete in every way compared to his DLC (3K+G,P,466P+K) and it's rarely used because of it. His DLC takes more damage and wall splats while the other doesn't.This move is constantly being over shadowed by his DLC and if am2 does apply this idea it would give this move at least some kind of purpose, even if it's not that useful.

Here's that stats on Hontei Goko Hazankou (3K+G,P,P+K)

- Takes 48 dmg on NH, 56 on CH and 60 on MC.
- Knockdown on hit.
- Leave's Akira at -24 on block, which is the same as his DLC.

Remember it doesn't wall splat nor take as much damage as his DLC, so there really isn't any reason why this move should stay as is.

How it should be:

- 3K+G,P,P+K should be a 3 hit natural combo while maintaining his usual damage.
- leave's Akira at -13 or -10 on block. Either is fine.
- Should be delayable/hit-confirmable after the second hit.

This seems reasonable and realistic enough for Sega to consider using this idea IMHO.