Virtua Fighter 5 ?

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MAXIMUM said:

I know it's a bit early for speculation, but this would be my wish list for VF5:

1. Bring back 3D terrain with limb IK - include a number of flat stages so this dosen't unbalance tournament play. As fair and balanced as VF4's stages are, they're sinply not as interesting as VF3's.

2. Add a couple of new characters, plus bring back Taka.

3. Make dodging more intuitive - the , tap still sucks imo.

4. Add an online mode. Even if this was technically flawed due to lost frames from network lag, it would still rule to play online. Imagine being able to hook up with players in different countries for practice sessions or casual matches. Obviously serious competitions wouldn't use this mode.

5. A proper memory card implementation....duh.

6. Hardrive support for saving replays and uploading to the web.

7. Add lots more character detail - ripped clothes, sweat and more incidental damage to the stages would be cool.

8. Develop the character's backgrounds and inter-relationships a bit more - if only to attract more casual players. Most folk on here wouldn't give a monkey but it makes sense from a business standpoint.

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*Thumbs up* Although I disagree with and not being intuitive.

9. Make Dural a legit character or get rid of her.

 

While Evo is still quite popular, it's nothing like Ver C was in months 1-9 of it's release. Evo's initial burst was was much shorter lived than Ver. C's, and the fading is starting to become apparant. Some game centers in Tokyo are even reducing the number of machines.

I think this summer would be fantastic timing at exactly two years since Evo came out, but that's just me.

 

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9. Make Dural a legit character or get rid of her.

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10. Get rid of dural, and make some Judgment 6 head boss. But then Geace haward look alike from SNK comes to mind.

11. Some more voice acting (i just hate hearing "YEAH" all the damn time)

12. Some more sound effects for the spin kicks. Currently they sound like a jet flying by "WOOOOOOSH" /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

As for dural... give her her own style, not simply copying everyone else!!! It would be cool if she had a couple of different stances (make her a complex character like Shun, difficult to use well, but devastating if done so). Also... no more English voice acting... not only is it terrible, but everyone sounds gay (and Sarah sounds like a guy at times). Keep the Japanese voices!
Finally: fix the damn sidesteps... make the characters really maneuverable, not like where you could run away forever, but enough that you have more options out of a "failed evade" like they should be able to dash, backdash, etc, to the point where everything looks super fluid (like in SC2) although stuttering (or Minami stepping) should definitely be in.
Finally, fix jumping, make jumping attacks much more variable and easy to do (say like DOA) and make them actually hit hard, like they should (except obviously for jumping straight up or backwards)... that, and jumping punches make no sense (Lau == /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif). The engine is still great though... I would just like more dynamic matches... instead of sort of constantly stutttering back and forth (which is cool, but isn't all that great looking). I think that these refinements to the controls would really attract more people to VF, I hope.
NOTE: Whatever AM2 does, I hope they don't use Tekken 4's movement... eyuck!

 

Having Americans, Canadians and Aussies that can only speak Japanese is so much better than actually attempting to make it realistic then? Aside from Lion (Why does he even speak English?) most of the voice acting isn't too bad, and where it is bad it's usually funny because of it.

 

If online play couldn't be implemented I would like some way of uploading/downloading a player's character to use in the Quest mode. I think it would be cool to play against another person's character that mimics their actual fighting style and tendancies.

 

So, since when have fighting games attempted to be realistic? Brad and Lion both sound like crap, Jacky and Sarah sound like they're both guys... oh wait... and Vanessa sounds absolutely terrible. Wolf's dubbing, while better done than the others, still sounds terrible. How can you say the voice acting isn't bad? Have you listened to the announcer at all? I'm just saying, either keep in Japanese or get really good voice actors (which are few, if any at all, on this side of the ocean).
On a side note: having like ten win poses would be cool. Just so you wouldn't have to listen to the same stuff over and over (plus, Jeffry would be even funnier /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif ).
And yes, the voice acting is funny, but it also pushes casual players away from playing this game, or at least certain characters, just because they don't sound cool.... that, and Wolf needs a redesign... he doesn't even look remotely Native American... and yet he wears all that stupid crap. I would like to see more actual Native American wrestling maneuvers, instead of Western stuff. Ah yes, and that one guy's idea about putting in a lot more background and story would be really cool. (Imagine a tekken 'quest' mode, where you just run around these cool stages (unique hopefully from the normal stages) and battle a ton of guys... might be hard to implement since AM2 is kinda pushing the PS2 already...)

 

Ok ok ok, so it's awful. I like it though, it's funny when you want to gloat after you win.

And Wolf's Canadian so the Indian thing is probably meant to be his wrestler gimmick.

 

i doubt the jap voice acting is much better, just dosnt sound as bad because i dont speak a word of it /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

thats my arguement for sub titles in anime aswell /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

Bring back an advanced version of virtua fighter 4s A.I training sysytem. Oh and the whole memory card thing.

 

How about Story, Better Voice, and Character Design Change, not that anything is bad with the current design, its just a bit old. But then again thats what Quest Mode is for?

 

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Ura_Bahn said:
12. Some more sound effects for the spin kicks. Currently they sound like a jet flying by "WOOOOOOSH" /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


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i couldnt agree more. Here you have the closest to a realistic 3D fighter there is, and you get these crappy sound effects. It sound like a god damn bugs bunny cartoon sometimes. If they are going with the sound effects they have now they may as well add some benny hill music with it also.

taka needs a come back. And if not him, then bring back sumo. It could even be a lighter weight sumo but it seems like alot of people would like it back. I can understand why they wouldnt though, his weight class would be uber difficult to get a juggle engine. Also, alot of throw animations would have to change (jeff IS a mac daddy, but i cant imagine him doing ++ on a sumo).

Oh, and like 5 default outfits for each character (just hit start to cycle through them all). And then hundreds of items for each character. That way no ones character will look similer to anothers.

and for the love of god, give jeff a sabaki, reversal, parry, SOMETHING! The guys been in it sense 1, he deserves a break!

 

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Ura_Bahn said:
12. Some more sound effects for the spin kicks. Currently they sound like a jet flying by "WOOOOOOSH" /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


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Personally, I find the "roundhouse/sweep" (K+G) sound effect of a jet very likeable. I also think THAT THE SOUNDEFFECT IS AN AUDIO CUE THAT LETS YOU KNOW THAT A ROUNDHOUSE/SWEEP IS COMING, and lets you react to it, since those moves are particularly strong. VIRTUA FIGHTER, IMO IS AS MUCH A LISTENING (AUDIO) GAME, AS IT IS A LOOKING (VISUAL) GAME.

If AM2 decided to use "more realistic" soundeffects for those moves, there wouldn't be any sound at all, other than the contact made to the other player. How can one make a discernable sound effect for that? How much different can you make it? It needs to be very discernable/different so that you can easily pick it up by ear, and react properly. IMO, the game's sound effects are perfectly suited for the mind games VF is supposed to be.

 

From what I've heard from people in the industry, Sega themselves are a bit at a loss as when to put out VF5 for two reasons:

1) The impending release of a new Fighting Vipers. Put out a VF any time near the release of a new FV and it's *over* for the new FV.

2) Evo is still doing well enough that it would be silly to cut it off before it's done. Sega's costs to keep Evo running (basically, maintaining the vf.net) versus the revenue it gets from the game and vf.net would make it silly to put anything out, at least in the next 6 months or so.

 

i want to see a female grappler like wolf or jeffry but then vannessa kind of covers that except shes doent have many throws unless you combine the stances.

 

Put in a Korean... SNK and Namco games have them. Hell, a Hwoarang knockoff with Sarah's flamingo = /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Oh, and proper memory card usage would be nice.

 

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Catch22 said:
Personally, I find the "roundhouse/sweep" (K+G) sound effect of a jet very likeable.

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Although ive never really LIKED this sfx, I cant see virtua fighter without it, and it should most probably stay.

 

Ok so every one wants the "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH" sound to stay, but what about charecter cries?

How bout unlockable mini games here some ideas:-

Jackey indi car racing
Jeffery fishing
Shun's wonderful world of potion making
Wolf arm wrestling game
Tamagotchi Lion /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif (You get to feed, bath and hurt him)
Aoi dancing
Lei shave my head
Akira quick time event game
Lau food making
Sarah cat suit contest

Any more ?

 

those ideas are incredibly funny and would actually be pretty cool. Say after you beat the game at the arcade you get your characters mini game that would last for a minute or 2 with various difficulties.

question though, how is sarah in a cat suit a mini game as much as it is sarah in a cat suit?

other ideas:
lion skateboarding
goh's piercing challenge (something like those "micro mini games" in wario warez)
vanessa's bench press (probably your standard mash the buttons quickly)
kage doing something involving either ninja magic, ninja assisnation, or ninja sneaking
pai doing tai chi (i imagine there being a line you trace [kind of like the crayon mini game in mario party] and buttons you hit on cue)
brad's . . . pasta challenge?

 

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question though, how is sarah in a cat suit a mini game as much as it is sarah in a cat suit?


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i supose the mini game would make you try out differnt catsuit or clothing and you get rated by the CPU, you may even strip here totally naked /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Another game for brad :-

Friday night pull - Brad must try and pull the VF girls, brad gets slapped, kicked and punched for every wrong move and if he fails you get to fight them all at once or get kicked in tha nuts 100 times by Vanessa for even trying.