Virtua Fighter 5 vs Dead or Alive 4

Half life to a reversal?!

VF the average is 30 damage (20ish for Akira, above 30 for Wolf and Vanessa).

 

No No. I meant like in an exchange in VF you could lose half your life. Like get thrown and not throw escape...not saying its easy to do or nothin. But when to good players are playing Ryu is not just 2 and outin people with Izuna's like people think he will.

 

they are actually called "counter holds"(holding is probably a better term, so you don't confuse it with other terms and meanings) and if you time them precisely "hi-counter holds" (these give more damage).

holds do less damage if you are in stun-state although i can't remember the percentages. hi-counters do 150% damage, for attacks throws and holds (90 dmg for hi-counter holds, about 1/3rd of a lifebar but that could be larger with enviromental damage as some holds push opponants into walls/off ledges/off stairs/etc)

the window is rather large, but it makes the game more forgiving and usually pretty playable online. it also gives the offensive player space to react to counter-hold spammers with throws (paper/rock/scissors=attack/throw/hold) and you see quite a lot of players baiting counter-holds from the opponant to punish for using them.

 

yea exactly.

 

i dont like doa becuae this rock paper scisor sytem can become very abusable......

 

Professor Sebo no one likes a know it all.

 

theres so much more than the gameplay the characters in DOA4 are no where near as balanced as the characters in VF5.

 

i like the DOA games just like i like most fighting games for the most part but any real fighting game enthusiast will tell you if you want depth and balance play VF5 or soul calibur. those are the only two fighting games where if i lose i know i didnt lose cause of bad gameplay, button mashing and unbalanced characters.

 

Why triple post within seconds? :\

Condense, my friend, condense!

 

You guys are stupid /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
VF is so much better than DOA /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
VF's dad could beat up DOA's dad. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif
VF can piss way farther than DOA. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif
VF has a bigger penis than ALL other fighting games. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif
Take that! And suck it!

 

yes I agree

 

lol at this thread in doa cental .com

 

yes, big lols at that thread.

 

Dead or Alive 4 is a good game, but Virtua Fighter is the best
3-D fighting game, Virtua Fighter Rocks!!

 

i have no motivation to play with 14 yr old girls with boobjobs..
doa4 has like half its roster being preteen girls.. you cant tell me that the half the top fighters in the entire planet are teenage girls.

*watches small teenage girl do flip kicks on fedor of pridefc* lol

 

it isnt what the characters look like to me. it comes down to the gameplay for me and the character balance. thats what makes a fighting game so fun for me. when you can win with every character because the game is so balanced. whats the point of having a favorite character if the fighters in the game are unbalanced and the gameplay isnt tight. im sorry but all most females in fighting games arent portrayed well. for me its like this your going to compare football games with other football games and fighting games with other fighting games. after playing VF and DOA since they first came out, i can honestly say DOA is fun to play. VF on the other hand is a must have for any fighting game purist.

 

doa4 is pretty balanced, but imho that's because in this version every character has been given all the tools(prob a lot of doa players won't agree with me on this though): each character has a high damage throw, a 10-frame throw, lo-throw, catch-throw, low-catch throw, midp, midk, high launchers. there are character differences, but i have the idea they have been kept in for esthetic reasons, like the isuna drop that does a lot more damage if you fly off an edge.

i feel they dumbed down the game(system) to get the balance in order which is a bit of a shame, none of the characters really stand out in different strategies. they were really going in the right direction with doa3.

 

Also, if I could just add to the debate:

DOA players are all like:



And VF players are all kind of like; you know:

 

Lol!
Yeah, we all got wallets branded with the words
"Bad Motherfucker"

DOA players got My Little Pony purses. ;P

 

You laugh, but that's pretty much how the debate has gone in the DOA site. I got bored after page 2 of 8 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif