Virtua Fighter 4 EVO : UK BATTLE TOURNAMENT - Media!

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TrojanX said:

Masamune: I would like to used XVID but the general standard are QUICKTIME, WMV and MPEG and out of the 3 WMV (version 9) has the best compression in my opinion unless someone proven me otherwise. Not to worry though as I will spend some extra time and make your own special version of the final bout or a bout of your choice. Is that ok?

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XviD is whack it runs the image slowly and the sound at normal speed,i have run tests with it using different codecs and programs and it refuses to work in Xvid form, i have to then convert it to mp4 and rip the sound off the original and put it over the mp4... long tings.

anyway anything else should work, divX,mpeg 1,2,4,mov and most avis.

Divx has sorta become standard now, till everyone started using WMV9 (damn micro$oft)

Real works too and older WMV codecs (7)

and i reccomend, if you are gonna do a hi quality vid you should do it in a different codec, i mean the lo quality is for people with low bandwidth, hi for ppl with larger bandwidth so weight doesnt really matter thant much right? and i know there are other ppl who dont like WMV...

oh and i cant choose which bouts i want till i see them... which i cant, lol.

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My love for *.mpg will never die... /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

Xvid is fine only for n00bs who do not how to use it /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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FInished editing all videos and watching them all as we speak. I think you all will love the Final bout movie; now I have to type up the article.

Today you'll see the First round and Quarter finals. The rest will be up tomorrow for the weekend download. SOrry to tease you all...

Prepare for it!

 

Umm where's the link to them?

 

I haven't finish typing the article yet. I'll put the link and everything on a new thread. Or maybe not...


... Just finished the 60fps vid... Man, the last fight so damn exciting! You see what I mean when you watch it. I'm a genius!

 

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TrojanX said:

I'm a genius!

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Such modesty. Can't wait to see these vids, you've piqued my curiousity. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

No need to make another thread.

 

Hehe, u can forget about the genius part for I like to keep my modesty intact.

We'll stick to one thread.

.... Further sorry, now I'm too exhusted and I have to wake up at 6am for work. I'll put up everything tomorrow.

 

yea I cant wait to see me get bust up again /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif
(analyse my mistakes)

 

Would anyone like a preview of one of the Semi-Finals matches? (The Semi-Finals was a 2 Victories Knockout).

 

nah man, start from the beggining of the trny and work ur way through. Much better th at way. No point showing us a future match. Anyway, post up the links when ready and no need for another thread.

 

That's what I like to hear. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

when are these matches actually gonna be up?

 

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Jide said:

The game actually runs at 60fps so its not really the ps2 it's the tv and am2's fault for not having a prog scan option. But when you have a vga cable it actually forces the game to come out in prog scan running in 60fps only problem is that it looks worse due to the higher resolution. What's weird is that when i did tv-out from ps2 to my Pc it looks really smooth on a monitor even with composite.

If you wanted to capture at 60fps easily you would probably need a ps2 development machine /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Besides ps2 highest resoloution for running a game is 640 x 480 even though it can due higher it's just not feasible for games. Arcades always displayed higher resos anyway /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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dont matter what u say, PS2 can ONLY do 60hz if the games has PROGRESSIVE SCAN OPTION!!!
and, you hav a compatable TV/monitor/projector thats can handle PROGESSIVE SCAN,
that means even if ur flash and have a Toshiba 36inch tv with COMPONANT YUV input, if its not PROGRESSIVE SCAN compatable, u will still only get 30 frames per sec when u run it at 60hz

anyways Jide its pointless aguing the fact when i am a qualified TV engineer
and people who know VF, know that when they made the green an blue books in japan, they needed to hire super slow mo recorders (high speed) as even if u had a £25grand digi beta (that virtually all DVDS are mastered from!)
it only records at 30frames at 60hz an 25frames at 50hz

guess this is like when u said there is a diference between NTSC RGB and Pal RGB (there aint, RGB has no colour sub carier, thats the NTSC an Pal bit)

and the fact that u can see the difference at capturing 30 frames vs 60frames is minor
hell Movies are filmed at 24frames per sec, but actually shown at 48, to make it smother,
its pysco-visual affect
VF EVO on ps2 reads the controler at 60 times per sec, but does not out put any of its video at 60 frames per sec
starfox on super nes UPDATES its graphics at 15 to 20 frames per sec, but the snes will always out put 30 frames at 60hz

anyways i hope you under stand what im saying
"no prog scan, no 60frames"

also ur VGA box for ur ps2, as long as its reading the video at COMPONANT level (YUV) is still only readign it at 30frames, it basicly works like TV STANDARDS CONVERTER, by digitising the incoming image an then out putting the signal as VGA, (which is basicly YUV with separate horasontal an vertacal sincs)
RGB gets its sinc from the green pin, an its at a minor voltage
anyways....

 

Random your confusing me Your telling me that ps2 can only output 60hz with progressive scan ???

So you mean for all these years i was never playing ntsc games on my bro's plasma or Wegas at 60hz ?? what hz was i playing at then ? 100hz /versus/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

The video IS updated at 60 "game frames" per second.

The screen is showing 60 fields per second. You see the odd lines of 1 game frame, followed by the even lines of the NEXT game frame.

In progressive scan, both the odd and even lines are updated at 60fps, so you'll see the full image updated at 60fps, which does look slightly better.

The reason why 24fps doesn't look so bad for films is that each frame of the film represents a full 1/24th of a second of movement (which you see as motion blur). In a game running at a crappy frame rate, you're seeing an infinitely small time slice rendered completely still with no movement until the next update, where everything will appear to 'jerk' into the new postion. The same goes for TV output at 30fps - a camera panning sideways across a scene in a TV show does not look as jerky as it would in a 30fps videogame, for the same reason.

Er... well maybe that explains it. Who knows.

 

What Random and _MG_ are saying is correct, because I've read about it before and it sounds the same as what they're saying /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyway I think there might be some confusion about 60Hz, 60fps, controller input sample rate and a few other things.

About Gavin's editing and sleep issues etc... well the guy's running a professional website which he's trying to promote, sure he loves VF and is kind enough to invite us round but do you think he's spending ages producing beautiful looking vids simply because he loves us so much, the general public DO visit his website so he's gonna have to do a lot better than the TAGVFKids vids lol /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

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What Random and _MG_ are saying is correct

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Hatim- long time no see /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif BTW I was actually disagreeing with Random

 

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_MG_ said:

The video IS updated at 60 "game frames" per second.

The screen is showing 60 fields per second. You see the odd lines of 1 game frame, followed by the even lines of the NEXT game frame.

In progressive scan, both the odd and even lines are updated at 60fps, so you'll see the full image updated at 60fps, which does look slightly better.

The reason why 24fps doesn't look so bad for films is that each frame of the film represents a full 1/24th of a second of movement (which you see as motion blur). In a game running at a crappy frame rate, you're seeing an infinitely small time slice rendered completely still with no movement until the next update, where everything will appear to 'jerk' into the new postion. The same goes for TV output at 30fps - a camera panning sideways across a scene in a TV show does not look as jerky as it would in a 30fps videogame, for the same reason.

Er... well maybe that explains it. Who knows.

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there is no "game frames"
basicly what it comes down to is that the ps2 can only output 60 FRAMES per sec when...
1:the game is 60hz
2:the game supports PROGRESIVE SCAN
3:you have the COMPONANT VIDEO LEADS, with your PS2s output set to COMPONANT (YUV) not RGB
4:you have a TV/PLASMA SCREEN or PROJECTOR that can take a PROGRESSIVE SCAN input

hell my friend (who produces panorama) has had a PLASMA, that runs at 100hz, but the picture still looks shit, it depends on the "FRAME STORE/BUFFER" that the said screen has, it digitises the incoming image an just then outputs it at 100hz (100hz does not mean 100frames)
anyways 100hz is shit for games, as it can put up to half a sec of lag time as it does its bull shit on the image!!!
y'all may think that PLASMAs hav a good picture but if u look at it closely you caqn see the "ARTIFACTING" (the pixilating if u know what i mean)
its only when u watch it from a distance that your own eyes does some "INTERPOLATION" that it looks good

anyways like ive said ps2 only out puts solid frames with a prog scan option!!!
how many of you hav actually played VF on a medium resolution monitor in the arcades??? u will notice less flicker an an increased vertical resolution

hz an frames are not the same, where hz an fields are