Virtua Fighter 360 Confirmed

Considering the game is originally on Nvidia graphics hardware, Id think the PS3 version will be more accurate. While it potentially could look better on 360, I very much doubt it will.

I am however worried about that Version C talk. The PS3 version is confirmed to be version B at release, will a update be released for it to later match the 360's version C?

Finally, if they both end up looking the same, then it comes down to load speed and controller selection. With the PS3 fully supporting installable software, it may end up with the load speed advantage.

-DeathCom

 

ver.c doesn`t mean gameplay tweaks. it might be just like what ver.b is.
although I`m not a fan of x360 and I`m not even planning on buying one, I`m glad that SEGA did the right move to convert it on it.

 

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It's really more than 600 bucks.

Cause it's $600 mininmum for PS3
$60 for the game
$5-10 for convertor, or worse $70 for decent stick
$1000 for a decent HD TV (360 can work fine on standards, PS3 looks..... sketchy)

I bought my 360 last year for DoA4, and I already have a custom stick for (made for Doa4 but it's same layout as VF anyway). And I can play it on a standard TV without it looking like crap.

I only spend $60+couple months wait!!!

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1. There is a $500 PS3. Unlike the 360's core package, it isn't utter crap. It offers the same (hell, more) features than the 360 premium offers.

2. 360 version of VF5 will also cost $60.

3. $70 for a decent stick isn't that bad, neither is paying $10 for a PS2 to PS3 converter. And you still have to buy a stick for the 360 (how much did that custom stick cost to make? It'll cost the same to make it for the PS3 too you know).

4. PS3 looks fine on Standard TV, just like 360. I don't know where you got this. You don't need an HDTV for either system, it just looks a lot better if you do have one though (and that applies to both PS3 and 360). But again, I don't know where you got that the PS3 looks "sketchy" on a standard...

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I played on a PS3 at my friends house and I got the impression it wasn't so great cause he had it on standard and it looked rather bad. He was playing Genji. Maybe it's different for the games you play.

The custom stick costs less for the 360 thanx to cheap 3rd party controllers available for the 360 (it has been out for a year remember?). I paid for a used 3rd party PCB for $14.99. I won't get that kind of a deal for the PS3 till it gets some age and more 3rd party controllers come out.

And the core package for the PS3 is still a rip off and everyone knows it, I didn't get the core package for the 360. Even then if you go toe to toe with bundles 360 is still cheaper, and again I got it cause I played DoA and I had a hunch that VF would get ported. And I'm happy it did. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

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Poppa said:

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Unsafe_Dan said:

It's really more than 600 bucks.

Cause it's $600 mininmum for PS3
$60 for the game
$5-10 for convertor, or worse $70 for decent stick
$1000 for a decent HD TV (360 can work fine on standards, PS3 looks..... sketchy)

I bought my 360 last year for DoA4, and I already have a custom stick for (made for Doa4 but it's same layout as VF anyway). And I can play it on a standard TV without it looking like crap.

I only spend $60+couple months wait!!!

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1. There is a $500 PS3. Unlike the 360's core package, it isn't utter crap. It offers the same (hell, more) features than the 360 premium offers.

2. 360 version of VF5 will also cost $60.

3. $70 for a decent stick isn't that bad, neither is paying $10 for a PS2 to PS3 converter. And you still have to buy a stick for the 360 (how much did that custom stick cost to make? It'll cost the same to make it for the PS3 too you know).

4. PS3 looks fine on Standard TV, just like 360. I don't know where you got this. You don't need an HDTV for either system, it just looks a lot better if you do have one though (and that applies to both PS3 and 360). But again, I don't know where you got that the PS3 looks "sketchy" on a standard...

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I played on a PS3 at my friends house and I got the impression it wasn't so great cause he had it on standard and it looked rather bad. He was playing Genji. Maybe it's different for the games you play.

The custom stick costs less for the 360 thanx to cheap 3rd party controllers available for the 360 (it has been out for a year remember?). I paid for a used 3rd party PCB for $14.99. I won't get that kind of a deal for the PS3 till it gets some age and more 3rd party controllers come out.

And the core package for the PS3 is still a rip off and everyone knows it, I didn't get the core package for the 360. Even then if you go toe to toe with bundles 360 is still cheaper, and again I got it cause I played DoA and I had a hunch that VF would get ported. And I'm happy it did. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Either your friend's TV sucks or he was using a shitty connection for the PS3 (composite I guess).

I suppose you're right about that part of the custom stick. But you can still build a PS2 custom stick, and use a $10 converter to use it for PS3. So it'll end up being about the same as a 360 custom built stick.

How is the PS3 core package a rip off exactly? It offers the exact same features as the 360 premium does, plus a Blu-ray player for $100 more. The PS3 premium is really just luxury. Memory slots (SD, compact flash and memory sticks) aren't something that's needed for games at all (the slots just eliminate the steps of putting your data onto a PC and then transferring it over with a USB device). The extra 40 GB of HDD space is nice, but since the PS3 allows you to replace the HDD with any other HDD (that fits), you can upgrade it later on to 120GB if you wanted to. Sony isn't even making HDD's for the PS3. The last thing would be the Wi-fi, which is, again, just luxury.

The 360 core package doesn't come with an HDD, and that alone won't even let you play your old Xbox games (you know, the few that actually work with the 360). Not to mention that you can't really enjoy Live to its fullest potential and you won't have any ways to save your games unless you pick up a memory card (or HDD).

Sure, the 360 is cheaper now with the bundles, but that's hardly a fair comparison when you consider how it had a year head start.

 

Convertors can lag, and there is also an issue with compatibility, unless you use a native ps2 controller (which has annoyingly hard to hack pcbs and tend to cost more).

The 360 pcb itself is really easy to hack for me cause only the triigers and thumbsticks are analog. Everything else is a copper contact making it a breeze.

What's the point of spending $500 (which is more than the premium package for the 360 anyway)? You might as well go the whole nine yards. Both deals suck imo, and I'm not buying that console till it drops to the $400's.

It might be unfair to judge the PS3 considering the year head start. But I could give a crap about 20-60 gigs, 8 core processors, or blu-ray. I just want to play VF5, and $600 to do so is over the top.

Just me, I already owned a 360 for a game I wanted on it. And it was still cheaper back then, then the PS3 is now.

 

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What's the point of spending $500 (which is more than the premium package for the 360 anyway)? You might as well go the whole nine yards. Both deals suck imo, and I'm not buying that console till it drops to the $400's.

It might be unfair to judge the PS3 considering the year head start. But I could give a crap about 20-60 gigs, 8 core processors, or blu-ray. I just want to play VF5, and $600 to do so is over the top.

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A little hypocritical no? You don't need the $600 version to play games. The $500 version plays fine. The reason you would want the premium 360 over the core is because without the HDD, you won't be able to play any Xbox games, which sucks. You don't have that problem with PS3. So buying the $500 PS3 will play VF5 (and all the other games) just as well as the $600 version.

Of course, it's still more expensive than the 360 (by $100...less so if you live in Canada like myself, since it's only $59 more). /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

But that's the price for being able to play VF5 in February and not in late summer 07.

 

Nothing unfair about it, its entirely Sony´s fault that the gap exists.
Its not MS that fucked up Blu Ray Diode production, that made a machine that is a nightmare to work with(a dev we visited kept reffering to his PS3 dev kit as THAT PIECE OF SHIT) its not MS that postponed the PS3 launch and decided to price it at 500 minimum.

 

Argh, every time I think I'm out they pull me back in. I was fine with VF5 being on a console I wasn't going to buy for many years, but this makes it hard to resist. Especially since I live near a Micro Center and can get a premium 360 for $100 off....

 

Look, PS3 is hella rare right now, and still very expensive. I don't want spend $500-$600 on a PS3 then make a new stick for it (which will cost me at least $50) if I can get it for my 360.

I have 360, in order to get VF5, a week ago this is what I was looking at:

Spending $500-600 bucks, plus either $10 for a convertor (or up to $100 to make a new stick period). Having to deal with the rarity of PS3, and long lines. Then spend $59.99 for VF5.

I got my 360 used after EVO for $365. No lines, no waiting. Got a used DoA4 for $39.99 and a hackable PCB for 14.99. I have a custom stick for 360. I do not care about HD-DVD or Blu-ray. My 360 goes right along side by side with all my other stuff (ipod, bro's psp, and my pc) so I'm pretty happy with it.

From my point of view, VF5 going to the 360 is a great thing. Maybe not for you, especially if you got a PS3 instead of a 360.

 

My take...

Get the PS3 version now and get the 360 version later depending on what is updated....no online play is ok, but PLEASE SEGA...add VFTV....look at Project Gotham for reference, and use the 360 Memory Cards for character transfers. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thx

 

Hmm, it looks like VF5 will still be completely exclusive to the PS3 in Japan only if you read the Sega of America / Europe press release, since it only states that the Western territories will get it.

Sega did this with Virtua Tennis 3 also with the PS3 version being only released in Japan.

 

I agree that this is awesome news (but maybe not for Sony). VF5 was the only PS3 exclusive I wanted; now, I can buy the 360 totally care-free, which with its alredy-great library and cheaper price is a great alternative to the as-yet unproven (as most launch consoles are) PS3.

 

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From my point of view, VF5 going to the 360 is a great thing. Maybe not for you, especially if you got a PS3 instead of a 360.

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I think Sega porting it over to the 360 is the smartest move they made in a while, and as long as both versions are identical (or can at least be patched online) I have no problems with their decision at all.

The only thing is that your posts make the PS3 seem like the shittiest deal. I'm just saying it's not that bad of a deal compared to the 360.

 

Now I'm really confused. I've been buying systems soley to play Virtua Fighter since the Saturn. That's why I waited to get a PS2. What do I do now?
I don't care about cost I want the optimum system to play VF5 on.
Any advice out there?

 

Get a PS3. It comes out a few months earlier and it's an arcade perfect port.

 

I think I'm going to have to go for the PS3 version, especially if it has the arcade sticks. The 360 is good for the people that haven't experienced it, plus maybe now I will find people to play it with.

Everyone has been talking about what the VF Series should do after VF 5. I think it should take a break, and SEGA should update some of its other fighting games like Fighting Vipers and Last Bronx (which was made by AM3). Another thing SEGA could do would be to release a Fighters Megamix 2 with all of the above mentioned Fighting Games, and then due online polls to see which fighter the people prefer more!!!
Not to jump forum topic too much but I just wanted to see what people thought?

 

first off, I think this is totally sweet news! this will do good things for growing the fan base of VF, and I think it's a totally smart biz decision as well: the installed base of the PS3 isn't that big, and still won't be in Febuary. Even in Japan, I haven't talked to one person who wants to shell out the $$$ for the PS3.

I don't think this will splinter the scene at all, I think it will unite people who like to play both systems. The only problem I see is for the hardcore fans:

DRE, Jerky, are you guys (who are among the most heavy practice/training/quest moders I know /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) REALLY going to wait until summer (which could mean August) for the 360 version? I'm in the same boat, I'm fucking stoked I don't HAVE to buy a PS3 to play VF5 now, but I don't know if I can wait another 6 months on top of the lead Japan already has, even though I've got a 360 and a stick.

I think the only splintering here will be between the most hardcore fans:

there are people like me, who have a 360, but were planning on getting a PS3 for the game. Now we don't have to, but we'll have to wait another half a year if we want to save $, although we'll probably get a better/newer version.

There are people who've been waiting for the PS3, and are going to get it (or already have), who don't have a 360, like Plague. This group has bitten the bullet, but at least knows they'll be playing VF5 come Febuary no matter what. The downside here is facing the likely chance that the 360 version will be an updated one. And, that some of this group have been holding out on any next-gen systems at all, knowing that VF5 was heading Sony's way, and have seen waiting for the PS3 as a fail-safe move. Unfortunately, the wind has been taken from these sails a little w/ this announcement, as some will end up buying a 360 on top of their PS3 if the 360 has substantial upgrades, and they could've been enjoying the 360 for over a year already (not to mention having had it paid off, while they now have to face buying 2 next gen consoles within a time frame of several months).

Hardcore types, who've had in mind buying both all along are all cream here, with no worries.


IMO the 360 version will indeed surely be upgraded in some form or another. They'd be totally stupid not to do so, essentially releasing an old game. I'm sure we'll be seeing a new version in the arcade by then (since it's already obvious that VF5 isn't the king of the hill in Japan, so they'll most likely keep trying to improve it), it makes perfect sense. I also think the 360 version will be a perfect port: many of the graphical cuteness seen in VF5 has already been seen in many 360 games, and I think there are games on the market atm which push the system way harder than VF5 will (Gears of War comes to mind, which is totally insane). VF5 has nice graphics, but having seen it up-close on the HDTVs in Japan, I don't think it's on the cutting edge of curent-gen graphics (when the 360 version hits, VF5's engine, first shown @ E3 2k5 will be over 2 years old). I think it's just the best looking fighting game out there as far as characters go. I think there are parts of DOA4 that are probably pushing way more polygons.


If you're like me, and have a 360, but don't want to support Sony, but don't want to wait, either, here's what I'd do: shell out the $ for the PS3 & VF5, use a PS2 stick. Keep the system in PERFECT shape, I wouldn't even un-wrap the manuals, controller etc. Just barely slit the tape that covers the cardboard tab on the box, and keep everything as nice a possible. When the 360 version hits, re-package the thing, then sell it as barely used for maybe $50-100 under retail. I'm sure supply will still be limited by that point in the summer, and even if it isn't, it's a chance to score a PS3 for less than retail, someone will be interested. You'll have basically rented a PS3 for 6 months or so for $10-20/month. And you won't have put any real $ in Sony's pocket, since they loose $ on every PS3, and it's way more than the lisencing fee they'll get for the copy of the game you bought. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

In the end, I'm sure we haven't heard the last of versions of VF5 on console though, so it might be prudent to hold on to the thing (although they'll probably be a PS3 price drop by the time any future VF5 hits PS3, so you could still save $ by selling the system once the 360 version hits).

Overall, I'm excited, and along with DRE, give a hearty "Fuck Sony"

 

The way I see it , I've already waited over a half a year for this game when it came out in japan so waiting a little longer isn't gonna hurt me and don't think I'm not a hardcore fan, I am lol. VF5 is simply put the only game I want. Paying the extra cash for the Ps3 should earn you the chance to play it now but I'm sure everyone heard the saying "Good things comes to those who wait" we all know 360 will have the upgraded version. So what, people will have a head start lead before me in America (well the few that owns a ps3) It's not like the people that wait will get owned in the game just cause they didn't get it in Feb.

 

Well, from what I hear through the grapevine, the 360 version is just going to be a port of the PS3 version.

It also doesn't make sense for AM2 to release a new version of VF5 in the arcades in Japan due to the lower than expected interest especially given that Ver B just came out a few days ago and did not include any gameplay changes. I personally believe that AM2 is working on the EVO/FT version of VF5, it just doesn't make any sense for them to pour any more resources into the current form of VF5.

Anyways, it will be nice if the 360 version is somehow upgraded with more features; but since the 360 version is not coming out in Japan (also heard through the grape vines), I'm inclined to think that the 360 version will only have minimal upgrades. I think we are well aware of AM2's stance towards any home ports and especially the US market.

All these claims, of course, might turn out completely wrong. I didn't think a 360 version would be released, but it happened. I guess we'll see what the deal is in the coming months. I'll be getting both versions, but Feb is VF5 month for me!!

 

Luckily I'm fortunate enough to have Snapz (Kenny) bite the bullet on the PS3 release. I will be enjoying VF5 on the PS3 thanks to him. I plan to purchase my own copy for the 360 come late summer.