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VFDC Lion Combo List

Discussion in 'Lion' started by Chibitox, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    My mistake i confused about 2_6p+g. About it, combos for this launcher vs aoi i cannot land the combo 2_6p+g>46p+k>p>43p+k>6pp the only combo i succed is 66p+k>p>6pp which is poor dmg. Any advice?
    Yes i play lion but i find this char for 2 reasons first to improve my st game since he s the best for it and also to see how efficient he is vs aoi. But tbh i find him around offense very good and low game but for counter (contre attaque) like duck and punish and for punishment move very weak. I mean now i know with van i can allow myself to sweep him as much as i want. But it s still a good sub
     
  2. G0d3L

    G0d3L Well-Known Member

    I think you can avoid the micro dash if you charge [4][P][+][K]

    Dunno why it's not on the combo list
     
  3. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    It IS in the combo list guys.
    About the 26P+G combo, I don't remember exactly, there is probably a micro dash before 46P+K, I'm on holidays next week, I'll give it a try if I have time.
    If you cannot do this combo, there is a 71 one, but iirc it's a bit harder (needs to be fast with 33P).
     
  4. G0d3L

    G0d3L Well-Known Member

    Sorry Chibitox, I answered Maki without even looking at the combo list so my comment wasn't a confirmation of the list lacking that particular one.

    But if it means you coming back on vf than I'll say much worse things on the terrible lion's combo list XD
     
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  5. G0d3L

    G0d3L Well-Known Member

    CH [2_][3][P] > [4][6][P][+][K][P][8] or [2][P] > [4][3][P][+][K] > [6_][P] > [6][6][K][K] you don't need to turn on Aoi's back as it's noted in the combo list.

    Works with both [8] or [2][P].

    A little bit more strict the timing for the bound if you turn on her stomach side but if done asap you should get it 100%


    Am I missing the [8][K] combos on NORMAL HIT?
    I only see the CH ones.

    Like:

    - tested on Aoi both stances
    NH [8][K] > [2][P] > [6][6][P][+][K] > [4][6][P][+][K][P][P]

    - tested on Sarah both stances
    NH [8][K] > [2][P] > [6][6][P][+][K] > [6][P][P]


    And for [4][4][K][P][+][K] it's not listed for light weights

    [4][4][K][P][+][K] > [6][6][P][+][K] > [4][3][P][+][K] > [6_][P] > [6][6][K][K]


    Not saying I have discovered new combos and such because I remembered them done from others
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2016
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  6. LegendaryHero90

    LegendaryHero90 Well-Known Member

    There are a lot of combos that are missing for Lion on the Combo list.

    One off the top of my head is one against Lion himself.

    [4][6][K] > [6][6][K] > [G] > [6_][P] > [4][3][P][+][K] > [6][P][P]

    Not sure about the damage. I think its actually far lower than the 78 damage combo but the cool thing about this one is that there is no timing needed for this one and its consistent no matter where you strike your opponent with [4][6][K].

    EDIT: ok...after looking through the list, another combo missing that works on the mid-weights would be:

    [2][6][P][+][G] > [6][6][P][+][K] > [G] > [2][P] > [K][K]

    This should work on Lau, Kage, Brad, Goh and Lei-Fei regardless of stance (not 100% sure). For Jacky, you have to substitute [2][P] with a [6_][P] or else he can exact tech roll out of the [2][P]. I can't remember if this applies to Akira as well or if the combo drops on him completely.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2016
  7. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    Hello guys, Thanks for the info.
    Updated the list with your latest contributions, I'm missing the damage though.
    Also I don't know if the 8K combos apply to EI/BL, it might, but for now I've only mentionned the chars you suggested.
     
  8. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    Proof of concept:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oizkWrADhgY

    Sorry for video quality lol
    The combo is indeed pretty tricky on timing, the 6_P needs to bounce. Doing the dash 46P+K as late as possible helps to get the following moves to bounce. I think the 71 damage one is a lot more reliable for her.

    Tried the combo mentionned by @LegendaryHero90, it works on Akira both stances using the same input as Jacky, for an easy 67 damage.
     
  9. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter


    Just tested it on Aoi, the last K seems to always whiff in open stance, have you tested it ?

    This one does not work for me in close stance on Aoi. The second combo you mentionned works on aoi both stance for 1pt more damage and probably better oki btw, so I guess this combo is just here for funsises ;)
     
  10. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    How did you come up with 74 damage ? I got 69 by going through a low (punch and sweep) (RCH)

    If you do normal hit the combo can't be done
    If you do CH, the opponent is launched too high, I don't think the combo applies either.
    So I'm curious about how you got 74 damage ?
    This Combo is nice, but pretty unreliable though, don't know if I would go for it in a match.
     
  11. G0d3L

    G0d3L Well-Known Member

    You're right.

    Just swap [6][6][2][P] (DON'T cancel the dash immediately in the low punch or the last kick will whiff) for [6_][P].
    Works both stances and you got the same damage (73 points)

    Just checked and it works both stances but it's 56 pts against 57 of the second (and easier) one :whistle:
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2016
  12. G0d3L

    G0d3L Well-Known Member

    [8][K] > [2][P] > [6][6][P][+][K] > [6][P][P]

    Works on Aoi (both stances), Bl (only in close).

    Does NOT work on Ei.
     
  13. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    Hi
    two things:
    1 a typo in the tap of [4][4][K][P][+][K] missing "["
    2 8kk as ender is possible versus Eileen open El blaze both Aoi both Sarah both Lion and Vanessa Both stances too
     
  14. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    2_3P 46p+kpp 43p+k 66kk works in open from Sarah to Jean. Versus Van, Lion, and Sarah 8kk as ender deal more damage.
    I'm sorry but i don't remenber if the combo was listed or mentioned this thread
    46K 66K (G) P 43P+K Legendaryhero mentioned works on Van and Sarah if i remenber well
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2016
  15. LegendaryHero90

    LegendaryHero90 Well-Known Member

    you're correct. the 46K combo into 66K (G) does work on vanessa and Sarah.

    and the 2_6 P+G combo i listed above also works on Lion (and I'm assuming Vanessa as well, since lots of things that work on Lion works on her too). I dont know how the japanese players are delaying the 2P though. But i know it works since ive played in mirrors and had the combo performed against me.
     
  16. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    Versus Lion and Van need one frame kill with 662p
    @LegendaryHero90 seem to work on pai too. my execution is a shit can you test it ?
    3rd edit WORK FRON EILEEN TO VANESSA i fail more of the times but i think its my execution

    [2_][3][P] CH [4][6][P]+[K][P][P][4][3][P]+[K][6][6][K][K] deal 83p of damage from Sarah to Jean open stance, please Chibitox put it in the list
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2016
  17. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    I got a wall combo: 2_6 P+K, 9 K+G, 9 P, 4 6 P+K, 4 6 K+G, 2_6 P+K, HOLD 6 P, 4 3 P+K, AND EITHER 6 6 K K, 6 6 P+K P, OR 6 P P. IF YOU END IT WITH 6 6 P+K P YOU CAN ADD 8 p+k AFTERWARDS. IT WORKS ON EVERYONE EXCEPT TAKA (OF COURSE).
     
  18. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Its ok now...
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    Jason ELBOW AKT
    Any Lion specialist not STD Tm please feel free to correct or amend me please. Im not perfect. Thanks!!
     
  19. Ares-olimpico

    Ares-olimpico Well-Known Member Content Manager Lion

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    Jason Elbow after a little test versus jeffry and what i remenber this is correct (escapable with great struggling). This combo y dificult for me. i usually use kk after 336p+k and full charge 4p+k timing as meaty if oponent roll.
    about 336p+g 66p+k (g)... versus Eileen Blaze and Aoi I am trying 336p+g 4466p+k (g)662p kk TEST IN PROGRESS
    43p 2p 43p+k ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿?????????????????????
     
  20. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Its ok now...
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    You know thats a good meaty to use after the wall combo. Imma have to practice that. What are the potential follows ups after the meaty?
     

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