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VF5R Vanessa: New moves and changes

Discussion in 'Arcade' started by Jeneric, Jul 27, 2008.

  1. Jeneric

    Jeneric Well-Known Member

    Well, the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif only produced wall splat because the elbow was blocked and the followup was CH. If the Van had hit the elbow and then /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif there wouldn't be a wall splat, so there's no 76 dmg elbow /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  2. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    Oooooh, thanks for the clarification, next time i should triple-check vids before posting /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif You are most definetly right: indeed the first move was blocked and the wall combo is a result of the second move being a counterhit. In which case 76 is pretty low i guess, the move being throw counterable.

    I guess i was in a state of shock over the new grand spike animation when i posted the vid /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/sick.gif
     
  3. Zero-chan

    Zero-chan Well-Known Member

    I keep on meaning to write more here, since I've got a full command list for Vanessa in VF5R, and a few more impressions, but banging out a command list takes a lot more work than you'd think... especially one as large as Vanessa's. (plus, I've got plenty of actual people-pay-me-money writing work to worry about right now...) Maybe I should just go through and list all the stuff that's changed from Ver. C.

    Oh yeah, I forget if it's been mentioned already, but all of the 270 throws are now semicircular commands. The damage has been reduced too, IIRC... I think 70 pts for Heaven's Gate?

    I also found a site for checking out the new Vanessa VF5R items, as well as those for all the game's other characters... in Japanese. If you want to play around with it, go to:

    http://buga.chew.jp/vfitem/

    Looks like Sega has a sense of humor - one of Vanessa's new "skin" options is the glossy, oiled-up VF4 PS2 look!
     
  4. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    AFAIK here's the first vid featuring it /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

    ...i so wish there were a heart or a "lovesick" emoticon on this board /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif

    Don't worry about transcribing the command list, it would only give us a reason to nag anyway /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

    <u>EDIT:</u> hey that site *is* very useful. In addition to the skintone there's this new item as well /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

    [​IMG]

    There's a bunch of nendoroids too but the FLAMETHROWER tops everything /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif
     
  5. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    What's that amazing punch in 1:49 of this vid? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif It seems the vanessa player is inputting /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif but i supose that's the new /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and my eyes are not fast enough to notice the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif being pressed, right?

    Btw, in the latest acebreaker vid at 2:46 you can see vanessa's OS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif jump over lows as usual /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
     
  6. Jeneric

    Jeneric Well-Known Member

    It's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif aka Mach Breaker
     
  7. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    At 1:10 of this vid the vanessa player does DS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif and then fuzzies under a punch - can it be they lowered the frames of that move from -8 on block to -6? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  8. Sidna7

    Sidna7 Well-Known Member

    Nice Erdraug, I'm glad they included muscle-tone to make her look more athletic/threatening...cause I was afraid that Van's new R items would include:


    [​IMG] (@.@;)

    btw, great find Zero-chan!!!
     
  9. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    Hahaha i hate you too man /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif now excuse me while i bleach my brain /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/sick.gif
     
  10. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    If you are referring to the fact that the player quite obviously tried fuzzying: dunno.

    If you are referring to the fact that Vane was able to duck a jab when it's not guaranteed: of course she could. Throws excluded you can always crouch under high attacks as long as they aren't guaranteed.
     
  11. Tetra

    Tetra Well-Known Member

    You can fuzzy under standing P on -6 situations now.

    In VF5, you cant do that. You will get hit by standing P.

    This is part of VF5R's system changes. It is stated in the recent arcadia magazine.
     
  12. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    CD fuzzy under jab, then? I guess that's kind of nice change. Do you know if it works that way even against 10 frame jabs?
     
  13. Jeneric

    Jeneric Well-Known Member

    There are no more 10f jabs, only 11 and 12.
     
  14. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    Geez, I'm outdated.. I didn't know that either.
     
  15. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    Damn. I may have actually preferred 10 and 11f punches than 11 and 12... Anyways this makes fuzzy bit stronger again..
     
  16. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    As can bee seen at 1:31 of acebreaker's latest vid, OS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif doesn't knock down anymore /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

    Fair enough i guess, it's practically i new move.
     
  17. Tetra

    Tetra Well-Known Member

    Works on all highs. Doesnt matter what frame. It can be a 9 frame punch for all it matters. It will never hit someone who enters CD fuzzy. Unless it is guaranteed of cos.
     
  18. ShinobiFist

    ShinobiFist Well-Known Member

    WOW! WOW! WOW! Your pretentious demeanor is fucking "HOT" Paris Hilton, watch out! Zero-Chan, has a 9 to 5!
     
  19. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k40TGtwLDyU (20:19) shouldn't /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif have clashed? Has something changed? Did they just made it faster? 'Cause in VF5, the move being so slow, i have it clash in situations like these.
     
  20. Stl_Tim

    Stl_Tim Well-Known Member

    So lights and mids get 11 and heavy middle and heavy get 12?? I thought being a light weight was all about p and speed? I guess they need to take this away too. Wow, I am simply dumbfounded at the direction vf is going now.
     

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