VF5R Official Web Site

Could Sega make a profit of VF5R at $40? Would $60 be a better pricepoint? You gotta figure that the majority of VF5 owners are fanatical, and would pay $60 for R. Would a $40 pricepoint increases sales over a $60 pricepoint by enough? Figure that $40 would have to sell another 60%, and then you have the problem that some people think $40 game= shovelware.

Dev costs are likely minimal on a 360, as they have a lot of the code done. The 360 also reduces opportunity cost as since Japan hates the 360, they won't lose arcade income. I figure VF5R would sell about the same. Figuring that Old Hardcore Customers+ New Customers- those who see it the same would even out. Reviews would be "more of the same BS" as well, unless you got to review it (sometimes I feel sorry for you with the games you have to review), or they made effort on the features, which Sega isn't known for lately.

Here's the other thing, does Sega get a cut of the 100yen coins in the arcade machine, or just money for the machines?

 

I can see why you'd assume this, but it's patently untrue. Only a small percentage of people who buy fighting games are the types who play online regularly and/or go to gatherings and tourneys. Most of the sales of VF5 on PS3 or 360 were not to the "hardcore" players who visit places like SRK and VFDC, but to guys who read about it on IGN or 1UP and heard it was cool. Those guys probably aren't too keen on spending a full $60 for an upgrade.

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They actually lease the VF5 machines, so they get a steady stream of revenue from their operations, yes.

 

Thanks for the info. Surprised VF5 has such a casual following. Then again, it sort of makes sense when you think about other fighters. Also, it's a tough market to crack for fighters now.

Why would the arcade owners lease instead of buy in Japan? I can see leasing being a good idea for the machines on the initial rush that you'd plan to get rid of later. Is it just the expensive games that get leased like the VF/Tekken/Gundam games, or the cheap ones as well like the SNK fighters? I'm guessing buying is an option, otherwise how do the machines get to places in the US?

In your opinion: if I was to bet you $10 that VF5R does not get released on the PS3 or 360 in the US, how much would you be willing to put up that it does on each console, and consider it a fair bet?

 

arcade owners don't have a choice, it was Sega's decision to lease out the game afaik.

 

I heard about this time there is no demotion between MASTER and 10 dan anymore.......

 

技表(all moves)
http://www.badongo.com/file/10627705
變革(changes)
http://www.badongo.com/file/10627755

The link above are pretty awesome, however, they are from JP BBS.
If anyone can translate should be cool!!!

 

Sweet, awesome find Dennis!

EDIT: Hmm, can't seem to open the PDFs. Well, I can, but they're blank pages. Could be the software I'm using though.

 

u may need Adobe Reader 8.2 to open that ~

 

Thanks for the advice since my computer kind of acts up on Adobe. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif [/size]

 

This is the direct translation of Jean's backstory that is listed on the website (I used Babblefish, so I'll try to clean it up afterwards):

"France and Nice. With this land which is camp, the boys where the innocent face is young, played to summer vacation. “Lyon, seeing, seeing! [eitsu]!”John just was taught to the father shows the type of karate. Plain opposite heart resided in Lyon which is touched off in this. “That, I asking to the father, am more enormous…So, because the learning [tsu] [chi] [ya] you bore the Chinese fist method! When it is next week, to show, the [tsu] it will densely do! Because secret it intensively trains to that!” Day of promise which 1 weeks pass, John did not appear. It is impatient to wait, being, even when passing, Lyon which it becomes unable you to be faces to John's house. But, the house of the expectation where John has lived was demolished, had become the mountain of the trash. That the assassination unit of J6 is trained, one room of the building which is rumored. In the dim room, the youth who stares the lamp of the monitor is. It is John. As for it has started projecting to the monitor tournament image of the 4th worldwide grapple tournament. It receives the summer salt kick of [jiyatsuki], it was the scene where going is defeated. “The mistake shelf which completely, it flew. Hmm, it is good well. It could give to we chance with your that shade, therefore it is. You appreciate, [mutsushiyuhinogami]” John so designated the [bu] anther and the room as afterwards. 5th worldwide grapple tournament. At the meeting place, there was John's form which stares the pattern of preliminary round from the distance. While acquiring aim to the grapple house which makes the target of assassination, with the similar year appearance to by his, the youth who uses strange Chinese fist method jumped in the eye. “螳 螂 fist…? That it probably is who, don't you think? the structure [wa] the [e]. Filling up in despair”, as for John low the shoes [bu] and it was. Being the effect of brainwashing which J6 administers, that eye was full in self-confidence, it was full with the shining which is sharp."

Basically... it says that Jean grew up in France, and was friends with Lion. He, like Lion's dad, got involved with J6. (Jean is basically French for John, and I'm sure that Lyon is just a bad translation, thank you Yahoo!). Jean was taught Karate by his father, and became a J6 assassin, like Goh. I think it also implies that he tried to kill either Lion or Brad, since those two are his age.

Anybody else wanna try fixing this?

 

Taka-Arashi's story:

"The time to go back, the 3rd worldwide grapple tournament. Among those, the 鷹 storm narrow defeat was 喫 average vis-a-vis the veterans who stay. Being the sumo wrestling earnest, style of the grapple house which participated in the conference for the 鷹 storm which lives, was excessively unknown ones, and they had become skillful excessively. With the sumo wrestling it was defeated from small time and defeat in the worldwide grapple tournament became the experience of the humiliation you have not tasted at one time for the 鷹 storm which is not knowing. From the sumo world separated, the 鷹 storm which returns to the mountain village which has been made the place of training lost your own destination completely. Those where the 鷹 storm of desperation is rescued were the boss at one time of the post room. As for the boss, in order to be able to return to the sumo world the 鷹 storm, more you were devoted to the sumo wrestling arranging, in addition the 鷹 storm tries probably to erase the defeat of case, is as though, from. And, it passed the time… The 鷹 storm which builds the unprecedented large record, nine place successive victories, the main thing pleasantly continues charge. With the world “as for stopping the successive win of the 鷹 storm being who?”With it had boiled up with the topic which is said. Seasonal sumo tournament of that year. Is not defeated while was charge was continued pleasantly, that end. In the ring entering ceremony of the expectation which becomes climax, the 鷹 storm did not appear. It was informed, “the 鷹 storm, default!”Announcement. The meeting place where it resounds. The 鷹 stormy form was out, the whereabouts had stopped knowing. At the arrangement room, the one of the pupils discovered the letter one, presented to the boss. “In room of sumo champion…This…”When the boss removes content, the invitation of the 5th worldwide grapple tournament had entered there. Praising the smile of the whole face, the boss shouted excitingly. “Large doing to rage, it is dense and! … 鷹!”"

Again, horrible babbelfish translation.

Interesting to note that it translated vis-a-vis perfectly (A FRENCH TERM), and didn't know that one character... Hm... maybe it's chinese. I'll try that. Okay this "鷹" means Hawk... so everytime that symbol is there, it's referring to Taka-arashi, since... I think part of his name translates to Hawk. (Hawk storm, maybe, since the word storm is usually after the symbol for hawk...?) ANYWAY.

It's basically just talking about how he was in VF3, how he was going to go back, and describing a sumo match in which he wins. Very basic stuff. He gets his invitation, blah blah blah... not very interesting at all.

 

Arashi = Storm. So yeah, The kanji + storm = Taka-Arashi everytime it's mentioned.