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Discussion in 'Arcade' started by Myke, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    the newest evaluation:

    VF5R 日本2ch最新角色評價
    最新版R
    SS SHUN 、AKIRA
    S EILLEEN、AOI、LION、SARAH
    A Blaze、LAU 、BRAD、LEI-FEI、GOH
    B PAI、KUJO、TAKA、VANESSA 、WOLF
    C JACKY、KAGE、JEFFRY
     
  2. Rodnutz

    Rodnutz Well-Known Member

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    LIES! No surprise Shun is leading the pack, but Akira right there with him? Show me proof Dennis, because I don't see it!

    Also Jeffry at the bottom? Yeah fucking right! This has to be lies.

    Everything else looks just about where I would place it. It's hard to believe Lei dropped that far... OUCH! Jack / Kage... *giggles* I guess SWITCHNATION will be in full effect when this comes to console.

    by the way... thanks for the info! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  3. Truesonic2k

    Truesonic2k Well-Known Member

    Jeffry at the bottom?! This can't be right! You know how hard I have to work to get a win with Jeff?
     
  4. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    yes, he wears a gi and has has dark hair, and therefor looks like ryu. Absolutely %100 correct, because that is what ryu looks like. What just because a character is indian wheres a loin cloth, is lanky and paint on his head he looks like Dhalsam. Well, be that the case, yeah, that's what dhalsam looks like. Back during that era, every game that came out had a ryu inspired character. World heroes, had the blue/red guy who threw stars and had uppercuts, or something like that. I'm not saying he's a clone, i'm just saying his model was unoriginal. As far as the Karate Champ game reference, it was funny but...i suppose on street fighter if ryu would have been 4 bit graphics yeah, i would agree. I'm not saying u can't like him, that's fine. Personally i don't like his model. I think his hairstyles are mostly goofy, and i'd kinda like to see them make him a little taller to fit his muscles and high impact style. that's just me. But it's all good. But don't hate when i draw a comparison to 2 characters who look dramitcally similar, and say the 1 who came first seemed more original to me.
    BTW Ryu looks much cooler---zhing, hate on that instead. I love u all.
     
  5. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    disclaimor, it's just my opinion. Just posting a thought.
     
  6. Terra

    Terra Well-Known Member

    As much as I enjoy the notion of an upper-mid Lion and Aoi, this list sounds bollocks. Plus 2ch is the 4chan of Japan so...
     
  7. KoD

    KoD Well-Known Member

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    Dennis, this is just random 2chan survey, right? Wouldn't put too much stock in it.

    That being said, honest question, what have you seen from jeff that actually looks everyday useful & unbalanced? Only egregious stuff from jeff I've seen has been questionable headbutt wall setups against the cpu. He had 1/2 life wall shenanigans in 5 too.

    9p+k looks close to wolf's in terms of risk / reward. The new threat stance stuff is apparently high or special mid. Stupid double bounce from knee is gone (thank goodness), he lost his catch throw (meh), and lost an entire throw direction in /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (boo hiss).

    Dunno how aoi's new tenchi stuff will pan out in the long run, but at least she can actually do some damage in combos now. Lion apparently now has a 14 frame crumple . . .
     
  8. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    haha~ it's hard for me to believe that AKIRA belongs to "SS" as well..... But do u notice that AKIRA can do the fucking amazing damages wall combo which is over 100 easily!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

    I think this list just came out for the testing version, and the rank will be changed time by time. Based on the videos so far, yes, Shun is still on the top. His new stances are more unpredictable and 8K is still too powerful.... Well, the conclusion is if u wanna beat Shun in the further, u have to start using him and realize his every move indeed. Let's join the Shun's group right now!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif
     
  9. L_A

    L_A Well-Known Member

    I'd like to see a list by someone credible AFTER its been played for a few months. Way too early to make a tier list like that when no one even fully knows the frames yet.

    btw, most of the shun vids out there are from SHU and KISSA who are top national players. If you want to see jeff kicking ass, watch some of high kicks videos. Its as simple as that.
     
  10. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    This evaluation was just came out and I think after one or two month
    , it should be more reliable. The most videos on R which I was curious about are Jeffry and Taka. I really like Jeffry and Wolf but these videos show that Jeffry becomes more powerful now!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
    One of my friend just visited JP and he played the arcade for couple days, his main is wolf but he is also good at Jeffry. He told me that Wolf has changed just like he is not Wolf at all..... And he felt that Jerry is much more confident if u mix up "COME ON" stance . Actually I felt frustrate about VF5 since the balance doesn't work very well although version C already changed a lot. But anyway, VF is still good enough for good players to enjoy~ I just talked with BetaBow recently and we both agree that AM2 should focus on fixing some specific moves to make this games more closed to perfect.
     
  11. pltan

    pltan Well-Known Member

    When does this come out on PS3?

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  12. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    They haven't made any announcements on a console release.
     
  13. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    shuns new moves look beastly but is anyone really that sure that his teir has increase? Same for lei, yeah they nerfed him but has his teir decreased. Loss of ppp=hmh will hurt, but ppp is now quicker, pp throw is powerful mix up, and won't be much weaker. Elite lei's tend to grow away from ppp although truthfully i think that is to their detriment. Can anyone solidly confirm lei is not as strong, or shun is stronger. From the lei adj, imo, unless they nerfed his strength and range (which some say maybe range,he is just as strong us lei users will just need to use slightly more accurate inputs/play to get there. At first blush this means he is less powerful, but i argue not really. I will simply ingrain more complex button presses and they will be automatic. So with talented players is it confirmed these characters are stronger or weaker. If Shun's new stances aren't better than his previous options it makes him more stylish/slick/cooler and even difficult to a midlevel player, but on top end is he really any better than he was? Just wondering. Hoping some of u who know the game may weigh in. thanks
     
  14. _Denkai_

    _Denkai_ Well-Known Member

    I predicted Jacky to be bottom last in the list..for he doesn't have too many new attacks in R..and Jeffery at the bottom?? Bullshit.the game just came out I take this list with a grain of salt even thou I can see Shun being at the top and Akira looks really strong too
     
  15. pltan

    pltan Well-Known Member

    Lion!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

    But they need to hurry this up for PS3.

    No 360 here, and I'm eagerly awaiting my HRAP 3!
     
  16. _Denkai_

    _Denkai_ Well-Known Member

    No..I hope this game doesn't come to console just yet it be lame its better for the revised versions to come out first.. After looking at moves they took out for Jacky I think its pretty much confirmed Shun will be my main for R
     
  17. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    I believe it is possible to download the patch in order to revise version, just to adjust. But it still depends on SEGA....
     
  18. Shag

    Shag Well-Known Member

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    No way can VF5R come via patch on the X360. VF5 for PS3 cannot be patched period, it was coded without the ability to.

    In VF5R there are two new characters, new moves and animations for existing characters, changes to the stages, new music and newer items.

    That doesn't even include new features for Dojo, Quest and VF.TV modes.

    VF5R is a totally different game. I think all that data would be too much for a mere patch.
     
  19. L_A

    L_A Well-Known Member

    Well apparently VF5r is just an update disc for the aracde so it IS a possibility once you can play the game off the XBOX HD, however it's highly unlikely. I want it for ps3 or xbox as much as the next guy but something tells me we are gonna be waiting at least 8 months in the best case scenario. Sega's been having trouble keeping people playing in their arcades and I doubt they will rush it to the console just to make the 50 or so people outside japan that love the game happy.
     
  20. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Lei-Fei's old PPP is now P6PP in VF5R.
     

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