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VF5R Brad changes

Discussion in 'Arcade' started by Blahzie, Apr 22, 2008.

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  1. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Are you able to link to any clips showing the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif not hitting? I've noticed in R that you can recover from a wall knockdown much faster now, so there may be cases where it's not as guaranteed anymore (as opposed to no longer connecting due to a hit box change). In the clip above it certainly looks like Brad had plenty of time to make it connect.
     
    Myke, Sep 7, 2008
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  2. MuayThaiFighter

    MuayThaiFighter Well-Known Member

    MuayThaiFighter, Sep 7, 2008
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  3. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Yes it can. No moves have been removed since the game was released.
     
    Myke, Sep 7, 2008
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  4. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    Sure thing, Myke.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYX8LN7sDU

    The /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif whiffs at 1:15.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F9KeEwSonM

    The knee also fails to connect at 2:18 in this video.

    These instances lead me to believe that the Brad player intentionally avoided going for the knee after the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif wall hit in the video I linked in my previous post.
     
    Libertine, Sep 7, 2008
    #104
  5. MuayThaiFighter

    MuayThaiFighter Well-Known Member

    Thanks Myke, Brad in this game to me has been improved by a S**T load i mean i think that, the techique he uses at 0:45 is a true muay thai combo i have been training and fighting in muay thai for 10 years, but man this NEEDS!!! to come out on xbox 360, oh and im looking for some players my GT is MuayThaiBoxerKO add me
     
    MuayThaiFighter, Sep 7, 2008
    #105
  6. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Thanks for that. Clearly, the opponent can fall recover after the wall hit to roll away before the knee hits. This is new to R.

    I think if they don't recover though, the knee will hit.

    But what I particularly like about this is that the opponent is vulnerable to a stagger if you can anticipate it, since they fall recover to the side from a face down head towards position.
     
    Myke, Sep 7, 2008
    #106
  7. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    Good call.
    Since this is probably not limited to just Brad it makes those kind of wallhits actually more scary than they used to be with guaranteed damage which is kind of funny to think about.
     
    Combolammas, Sep 7, 2008
    #107
  8. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    http://dogalog.excite.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48347944/48347944peevee198209.flv

    At 1:30, the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif whiffs yet again. It looks like the in place recovery occured around the same time as the knee, yet it didn't connect. During what frames would you be able to connect with an attack during this type of recovery? Using /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif to catch an opponent using in place recovery after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif was an old VF4:Evo trick, though I believe that you needed to dash in first, and still do, to make it connect. Perhaps you'll need to do the same after a /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif wall hit.
     
    Libertine, Sep 7, 2008
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  9. MuayThaiFighter

    MuayThaiFighter Well-Known Member

    Hey my last post with the move at 0:45, can anyone show me a video other than the one i have cause i can not find any other ones not even in a match here's the video again if you have seen the move please let me know its at 0:45 just any one those moves would be good to, the slip right elbow or the uppercut


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uneyaxqdGtQ
     
    MuayThaiFighter, Sep 8, 2008
    #109
  10. MuayThaiFighter

    MuayThaiFighter Well-Known Member

    MuayThaiFighter, Sep 9, 2008
    #110
  11. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Myke, Sep 9, 2008
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  12. biggz316

    biggz316 Well-Known Member

    new vids pleeez!
     
    biggz316, Sep 10, 2008
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  13. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    Libertine, Sep 10, 2008
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  14. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi55Wf4efus

    0:23 - Brad performs /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on Jeffry from the closed foot position for 60 damage. I'm not sure, but the last hit may be techable.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRg9PolV3w8

    1:45 - I don't think that a light down attack is guaranteed anymore after the back throw. I saw a previous clip where it was attempted, and even though it connected, the opponent was standing up. Had the player rolled to the side or guarded the attack, he could have avoided getting hit I think.

    2:13 - CH /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif connects for 61 damage on Jacky.
     
    Libertine, Sep 11, 2008
    #114
  15. biggz316

    biggz316 Well-Known Member

    I like that sway back knee. but I haven’t actually seen it used to set up combos or anything....I like that 6 hit combo Jacky dishes out at 1:20...Jacky and Jean seem to have some flashy looking combos...
     
    biggz316, Sep 11, 2008
    #115
  16. biggz316

    biggz316 Well-Known Member

    biggz316, Sep 17, 2008
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  17. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    I'm guessing that Sway Back /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif will be a standard combo.
     
    Libertine, Sep 17, 2008
    #117
  18. biggz316

    biggz316 Well-Known Member

    hmmm...sway back /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif...or sway back /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
     
    biggz316, Sep 18, 2008
    #118
  19. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    No way the ending to that first combo will work. As far as the second combo goes, have you ever seen /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif work after a bound? Is so, please provide a link. From what I've seen, Brad's best options in this situation are either /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

    Anyway, it looks like Sway Back /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif was attempted at 2:24 in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rj-gUlZtjU

    Unfortunately, it whiffed. Maybe it would have worked from a different foot position or on another character.
     
    Libertine, Sep 18, 2008
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  20. MuayThaiFighter

    MuayThaiFighter Well-Known Member

    Im still very curious about the move at 2:02-2:03 what it will do if connected, damage wise and the uppercut seems to do this stagger to opponents that i haven't seen that any other character can do? info please its the sway sway right elbow uppercut combo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnIgzKRDdA0&feature=related
     
    MuayThaiFighter, Sep 18, 2008
    #120
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