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VF5R Brad changes

Discussion in 'Arcade' started by Blahzie, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

  2. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    http://dogalog.excite.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48347944/48347944peevee190347.flv

    Nice wall combo! It also makes good use of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif! I'm puzzled as to why the damage wasn't the same every time. A pretty big gap in damage, too.

    http://dogalog.excite.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48347944/48347944peevee188157.flv

    The video starts off with a nice head crumple combo, but the video is apparently broken so the action stops there. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

    <a href="http://dogalog.excite.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48347944/48347944peevee187812.flv" target="_blank">
    http://dogalog.excite.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48347944/48347944peevee187812.flv</a>

    Experimental side crumple combos.
     
  3. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    The second time he does the combo, the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif didn't combo from the throw. So the total damage shown is missing the intial wall hit damage from the throw. You'll also notice there's 1 less hit in the total the second time round.

    BTW, the second vid worked fine for me.
     
  4. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    Now the second video is working for me but not the combo video. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  5. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    What's the deal with that dogalog.excite site? Sometimes the vids will play all the way then sometimes they will only play the first few seconds or just halfway /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif
    I even tried deleting my cookies to see if it would play all the way through and that didn't work either. Any suggestions?
     
  6. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    The site might just be playing up. I've experienced the same thing from time to time. When I check back later it seems to be OK again.
     
  7. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    mudanadoryokusuki has posted part 2 of his technique examination:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uneyaxqdGtQ

    You can crouch under a throw after Ducking /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, Slipping /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif are guarded.

    Slipping /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif after guard can't crouch under a throw, which is strange given it's unique guard animation.

    The next series of tests pits a Slipping Left /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif after guard against the opponent's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (14f). It's found that a slipping attack after guard from:

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

    will beat the opponent's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

    However, the slipping attack from /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif guarded failed.

    SL /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif from /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif guarded also seem to beat the opponent's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif. This is a big improvement over previous versions when this wasn't the case.

    These are good improvements for Brad.

    BTW, anyone recognise the BGM?
     
  8. _Denkai_

    _Denkai_ Well-Known Member

    VF3 Dural BGM sounds a bit different but maybe cause its been so long
     
  9. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Brad vs Acebreaker (Vanessa)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9k2Bk_c1uQ
    1:23 - Nice foot crumble combo:

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif CH -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (65 pts)
     
  10. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    Not to mention the best wall combo yet.

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif Wall /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif 98 Damage

    It seems like a light down attack is no longer guaranteed after the wall throw Vanessa performed. Does that mean that Brad has the most damaging wall throw in the game now?

    Wall /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif 65 Damage + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (light down attack) 13 Damage = 78 Damage

    I haven't seen any wall throws besides Brad's so far that does more than that. Brad's is the only wall throw that I've seen that allows for a guaranteed light down attack afterwards. Has anyone seen anything to prove otherwise?
     
  11. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    Unless they changed it Shun's wall throw had the highest damage potential since it's damn near impossible to roll out of the way of a heavy down attack after.
     
  12. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    I think Jeffrys new wall-splashes (df,df+P+G on high- or half-wall) give 70 + LDA guaranteed.

    The other one actually looked like a ground throw or HDA might have been possible.

    Just to say something on-topic: Brad's looking real good in R. That's it.
     
  13. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjizT3-VJSw

    2:15 - New open stance slam combo:

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (59 pts)
     
  14. Jackira

    Jackira Member

    I can read Japanese also
     
  15. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    Brad 105 point combo:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igm20Ud_1aM

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif Wall /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif BT /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif Ducking /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
     
  16. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    That was the coolest Brad combo I have ever seen.
    CH 4K on side hit guaranteed SR P /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif
    Then stomach crumple -> 3PP+K Double flying knee was pretty cool too.

    That's one thing that kinda sucked about 4K in 5 is that on CH it pushed the opp back too far to really setup any Slip mixups.
    It was/is great as a wall attack though.
     
  17. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

  18. MuayThaiFighter

    MuayThaiFighter Well-Known Member

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uneyaxqdGtQ&feature=related




    At 0:45 Brad does a sweet right slip elbow to a uppercut thats INSANE!!!!!

    all of his new moves are incredible i have seen all of them (well the ones on here) and he is gonna be even more bad a$$ his new/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif Wild Shootdown wall throw is unbeliveable the new low kicks the elbows the new sway back knee and his new combos there even faster and stronger than they were in VR5 i mean this better be out in 360
     
  19. biggz316

    biggz316 Well-Known Member

    The more open stance combos the better....aye that Akira in Mykes post looks fuking nuts!...sick..but anyways..I have to agree with TF the combos are crazy...the 105pt one was sick but I really liked the 74pt combo…check this vid out
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJpwsJYlYD0&feature=related
    Brad vs. Lei
    The fight is boring as hell but around 2:00 Brad shows how eaaaasy it is to pull off a 79pt combo now…that double knee is a much needed much appreciated addition to Brad’s arsenal.
     
  20. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEGw6yUd1rw
    or
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEGw6yUd1rw&fmt=18 (High res)

    At 1:29, we can see /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif from the open foot position working on a middleweight character.

    One of the notable downgrades for Brad is that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif no longer connects after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif into a wall, at least from the clips that I've seen. At 2:44, the Brad player performs a light down attack instead.
     

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