VF5 Ver.C Vanessa Command List

Added Super Replay note, but unsure of the class. Can someone verify using Aoi's YY stance?
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Definitely not mp. Smacks YY-Aoi down.

 

OS + , is special high (H*)

 

DS Front Sleeper ~ Hold Face Knee (found under f+k, df+k+g and f+p,df+k) are marked as "25" damage whereas it should be "-".

Wall kiss (DS wall throw) is marked as "down" whereas it should be "stagger".

Intruder Step K is still marked as "MK" whereas it should be "MDK".

Crimson lancer #4 (OS b,f+k CH > f+p+k) is marked as "HTC" whereas it should be "HIT". It should also be moved up with the attacks instead of being bunched up with the throws - the same way the other two moves (d+k+g > f+p+k & f,f+k+g > f+p+k) that have hit-throws that lead to takedown are.

Lightning Lancer Tackle (OS f,f+p+k) should **probably** be marked "To Deep Sweeper after back hit (damage 50pts)".

Face Crush Upper & Knee (Hand Hold P & K respectively) should be marked "Opponent Side Turned".

Btw, in the **VF4evo** command list, d+k,p,p and f+k,k,p,p it are marked "Head over Heals" whereas they should be "Head over Heels"

Also i think DS db+p only forces crouch on CH but i'm not 100% on that, besides i don't think the command list differentiates that sort of thing, otherwise there would also be a mention of DS d+p+k forcing crouch on block.

Finally a reminder that we could remove the "continue with df+k,p sequence" comment from OS db+p+k.

I don't have internet at home ATM so i apologize in advance if i take a while to respond.

 

I've also found 2 additional discrepancies in the command list but since i don't have an xbox and cannot test them on my own i thought i'd post them here where maybe a kind soul would test them

DS feint body is 12dmg but OS feint body is 17 dmg?
DS pkg backhands are +4 on hit but OS pkg backhands are +3 on hit?

Once again sorry about the flood of questions in these last two posts

 

Yes,feint body is 12 damage in DS,and 17 in OS.but i dont understand why it's 2combo hit (27 total damage)in OS, and isn't marked as combo in DS. I want to answer to your second question,but i don't know what is pgk backhands. i apologize

 

Wow, Sparedifference, hi! So you finally decided to join VFdc Why don't you visit THIS THREAD and introduce yourself? I know there's another Italian player in these forums called Mister (you should try sending him a private message!) but there are maybe even more!

Thank you so much for the information about Feint Body. I feel embarassed it's so easy to test but i don't have my xbox360 here with me in Greece

Concerning "pkg backhands", it's my fault again, i was referring to the moves called Switch Back Blow. If you notice in the Command List there are several moves called Switch Back Blow that appear to be identical. However, if you look closer, you'll notice that:

DS
DS

say they are +4 on hit

OS
OS
OS
OS
OS Intruder Step

say they are +3 on hit

UPDATE: thanks to Sparedifference's other post about Cut-In (which i was too slow to reply to ) i realized that in the Reversals Section there's some info about being sideturned after throw escaping Vanessa's leg reversals crazy.gif Maybe the throw escaping information concerned her punch reversals which can indeed be escaped!

 

The important thing here, other than me giving up info on a char that im heavily using is, Switching with knee is - on block. Swithching to half cirular punch is +1 or +2 every time on block( not 100% positive). Vanessa can be very confusing to anyone not familliar with her. And dont worry I wont be volunteering any set ups as of yet. If you want to gain knowledge play me.

 

Tested with Aoi, it appears to be a sidekick (same reversal animation as bone crush middle).

 

Im pretty sure I can confirm this. Doesn't seem to work on recovery counter.

 

lol, someone has been missing seminars.

 

Hello, could someone with access to the command lists integrate the following posts:

* http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/207482/Re: VF5 Ver.C Vanessa Command #Post207482
Mark DS + , as Super Replay

* http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/260294/Re: VF5 Ver.C Vanessa Command #Post260294
DS Front Sleeper ~ Hold Face Knee (found under f+k, df+k+g and f+p,df+k) are marked as "25" damage whereas it should be "-".

Wall kiss (DS wall throw) is marked as "down" whereas it should be "stagger".

Intruder Step K is still marked as "MK" whereas it should be "MDK".

Crimson lancer #4 (OS b,f+k CH > f+p+k) is marked as "HTC" whereas it should be "HIT". It should also be moved up with the attacks instead of being bunched up with the throws - the same way the other two moves (d+k+g > f+p+k & f,f+k+g > f+p+k) that have hit-throws that lead to takedown are.

Lightning Lancer Tackle (OS f,f+p+k) should be marked "To Deep Sweeper after back hit (damage 50pts)".

Face Crush Upper & Knee (Hand Hold P & K respectively) should be marked "Opponent Side Turned".

Btw, in the **VF4evo** command list, d+k,p,p and f+k,k,p,p it are marked "Head over Heals" whereas they should be "Head over Heels

* http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/272255/Re: VF5 Ver.C Vanessa Command #Post272255
Change DS hit throw(Cut-in Knee Kick ~ Front Sleeper) to "Counter Hit"

They have been pending for a while.

Also "Leg Hold Throw" and "Leg Hold Smash" say "Opponent Side Turned after throw escape" but there's no throw escape possible for those two moves.

Also DS (opp. down) "Rolling Leg Drop" should have "recovers crouching".

 

can someone tell me how I do that move where you take them to the ground and knee them a few times?

 

OS + + low throw (opponent must be crouched) aka. "Hell Hound"

 

thanks mate