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VF5 Lau Thread

Discussion in 'Lau' started by grynn, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. grynn

    grynn Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Finally got to try the game!

    Anybody has an idea on follow ups to the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif +/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gifor /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif throw?
     
  2. catharsis

    catharsis Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    I don't play Lau specifically, but a lot of characters got a similar throw. Nothing guaranteed, but a significant advantage (+4, I think, and the opponent's sideturned, so that tacks a few frames more onto any attempt to attack out of it). It's a pressure game, but nothing's guaranteed. I've been mostly trying to follow-up throw, with clashes being a bit of a safety net, but I think I may try messing with OMs as another option.
     
  3. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif


    If they try to low punch, it gives this awesome slow side crumple.

    Against a human, throw will work good as a mixup.

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif beats evades usually and I think beats most attacks.
     
  4. grynn

    grynn Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Thanks for the info!

    I was mixing up between throws and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
    Is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif the only move that can give you a side crumple?
     
  5. tetsu

    tetsu New Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    OM /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on counter also gives a side crumple
     
  6. SweepTheLeg

    SweepTheLeg Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Anybody have any YouTube channels for high level Lau play? Share them here! This is a really helpful feature in some of the other characters' threads..
     
  7. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    I've only been playing Lau for two days now, so take what I say with a grain of salt lol. But I've been using 3 options to mix it up a bit.
    I've been doing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, great sweep with great distance. If they try to throw or jab, this will sweep them for sure. I also have been doing his full spinning /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif. Perfect range for this, if they try and sidestep (not likely but hey) it will hit them, and it's pretty nasty damage + a knockdown. And lastly, the dash in and throw is nice.

    ________________________________________________________________________________
    I'm really struggling with something that Lau can do, and I REALLY want to be able to do this lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbmOZXxAsXg

    At around 36 in this video, the Lau user hits Brad with "Souko Sensou" /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif [+] /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif causing the crumple. The problem I'm having is buffering the "Renken Ko'enshou" /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif [+] /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif because the "Souko Sensou" leaves me with a paused state, and makes me stand /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

    Any tips or recomendations to nailing this? Cause this is a devistating combo off of CH and it looks fresh as can be lol.
     
  8. TexasLion

    TexasLion Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    JunoSynth
    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    After /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif quickly leave it neutral then tap and hold /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif and roll to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif then back to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

    It'll take some practice to get the feel of hitting the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif inputs correctly. It helps to turn on command display in display settings and see the correct inputs when you pull it off.
     
  9. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Tight, I'll give that a go here soon. Thanks man. I didn't know to just go neutral to d/f. And I always forget about the damn command display option haha.

    Hey are you and your brother gona be at PiXeL's tomorrow night? We should have 7 or so players on VF if you're interested. Just casuals though, no tourney tomorrow.
     
  10. TexasLion

    TexasLion Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    JunoSynth
    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Yeah it took me a few minutes to figure out the exact way to do it. I don't play Lau and I've never tried that combo before. I was just curious myself how it was done. lol

    And I'll try to make it tomorrow, but I may have to work and I don't know if frank has plans or not. We'll definitely be at the ranbats next week though. Well, as long as the turnout doesn't look as bad as last time.
     
  11. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    I think you don't even have to let the stick go back to neutral - you can just roll it to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif

    This is often good after an elbow or some other moves. Floating is where is where it's at.

    I am better at it when on the left, which is pretty lame. I need to practice it more from the right b/c it is a sweet technique. I used to do dodge, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+ /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (which was guaranteed when the first hit landed on mC) into a combo, but they took that away in VF5 (lame).
     
  12. TexasLion

    TexasLion Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    JunoSynth
    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Yep you're right. For some reason I couldn't do it before without going to neutral, but I just tried it again and was able to go to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif immediately after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. It's much easier that way. Thanks.
     
  13. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Holy crap, that did the trick guys. Thanks a ton to you both. Seems so easy now compared to what I was trying haha. Time to practice it a lot both ways to get it down pat.
     
  14. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    You can substitute with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif though for still good damage.
     
  15. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    I know, I just haven't really made it a part of my game yet.

    I like the older one better: more damage, easier input.
     
  16. Shiznittles

    Shiznittles Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Apologies if this is old news but....

    I've been playing at work with a friend and I have *finally* found a new use for Lau's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif series. My buddy's Lion was wailing away (as per usual) and I hit:

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif then /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

    Let me assure you that the howls in the room were loud and only got louder when I later did:

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif then /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif with a whole bunch of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif sillyness thereafter.

    It's crazy pressure man. Lau ends up hopping all over the place and if you guess even moderately well you can really lay into your opponent. He doesn't even need to get *hit* by the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif he just needs to block and make a split second pause for the horribleness to start. The /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is basically your super gap closer but I guess you could do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif or the ever slow but useful /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

    Give it a go. It definitely surprised us but I've only been playing Lau for a little under 2000 fights (those ain't all wins either). Like I said - perhaps this is old.

    When he is on he is really on.

    -Shiz
     
  17. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Sounds dope. Sometimes the more hectic you play Lau, the more it's in your favor. Just wonder how wise it will be to do this come version C. Sounds like there's more frames of recovery on the up K K. I still see it being used a fair share though, so should be good. Especially if you're hitting with it /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

    I'll be sure to x-copy your strat for tonight/tomorrow night, test it on some friends lol.
     
  18. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    PSN:
    Myke623
    XBL:
    Myke623
    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    You may find that this works against your buddy, but against more experienced players you'll find that after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif hits, causing a stagger, they'll be able to struggle and guard your followup attacks, especially a really slow attack like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif!

    Tell your buddy that he can struggle and guard. This will make him a better player, and in turn, force you to get better as well.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me assure you that the howls in the room were loud and only got louder when I later did:

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif then /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif with a whole bunch of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif sillyness thereafter.</div></div>
    Your buddy is letting you throw him after he guards your /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif?! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif tsk tsk!

    I think a great use for Lau's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is it's ability to jump over mid attacks, like standard elbow attacks. I think I've even seen it avoid some characters sidekicks as well!

    After some quick tests in Training mode I found that when Lau is 0 or better in advantage, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif can avoid an elbow (14 frame exe). In Open Stance, he can avoid an elbow from -1 disadvantage!

    Check it out in Free Training. Choose Lau and Kage as the CPU opponent. Set the CPU's Reaction to "Guard and counterattack 3" which makes him perform an elbow after guarding. Then do the following:

    1. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (guarded) > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
    Lau is at +1 after the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, Kage's elbow misses and he'll eat the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. Of course, the following /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is guaranteed from here.

    2. (Open Stance) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (guarded) > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
    Lau is at -1 Again, Kage's elbow misses, and he bites the big one!

    It helps to quickly tap /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif before inputting /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to prevent the built-in /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif from registering.
     
  19. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Yeah, from a "moral" standpoint this isn't smart. But I have seen a lot shake the stagger and attack. "Abare" wise this gimmic could net you a lot of damage against someone who attacks or ducks out of the struggle. I'm still gona give the first part a go. I don't think the throw will be wise after it though, got to agree.
     
  20. Shiznittles

    Shiznittles Well-Known Member

    Re: VF5 Koenken Master Lau Thread

    Myke,

    Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely look to tame the wild /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. I will also go for the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif by itself as you mentioned.

    I'm always surprised when /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif stuffs attacks but I haven't been mixing it into my fighting much so perhaps that is why it has been recently successful.

    Some of the power of Lau is busting out an unusual attack string and laying a hammer of destruction down. Of course - I am the first to admit to having my rear end hammered by being a little to 'wacky'.

    Cool stuff man - thanks again!

    KrsJin - tell me if you had any luck with the move - or any new ideas!

    -Shiz
     

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