VF5 Eileen Thread

ah thnx man, that's a killer guide we have there.

 

This move is very good but I think its worth noting that she can be hit out of it for an aircombo.. So maybe not too safe to throw out too often especially from disadvantage. Most of the time this shouldnt matter much though, as interrupting her isnt that easy.

 

You wouldn't use that move unless you had a nice frame advantage which would make it safe.

 

I only use that move when I cancel into it from one of her strings. It's a great way to confuse people. So, PP->Flip+K a few times..than when they expect the kick, switch to the the Flip->P+G for some good damage.

 

Yesterday I play with Eileen and I found following "juggle": /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (MC) -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/ub.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (big ground attack)

Dunno if this really works - I try this only against my counterpart (and it works) and I test it a little in Dojo (and it seems like it works too). Please can someone here try this and confirm if this really works?

 

I'll be at my boy's house tomorrow so I'll get a chance to test that combo out for ya. What's MC stand for btw?

 

MC - Major Counter

 

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif But she's a monkey! hop hop hop!
*falls down 12 flights of steps*

She has the cutest little smiles though.

 

I suspect that its techable after K+G.

I have found that you can relaunch at least some characters after CH df+P+K by dash, low punch. The timing however seems to differ depending on open/closed stance. Against Pai at least I got CH df+P+K - f,f - d+P - f+P+K PP to connect. Possibly d+P - f+P+K P ~ QCF+K,K (third kick wont connect) Same kind of refloating also works with her flop combo starters I believe. I'm at work atm so cant test more, but I wanted to write something /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Eileen is a fun character and I wish this part of forum was more active ^^ (But I'm too unsure of myself to write big guides myself)

ps. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You wouldn't use that move unless you had a nice frame advantage which would make it safe.</div></div>
You'd need something like +28 to make it safe. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif That moves main purpose is to catch evaders and fuzzy'ers.

 

*moved*

 

The odd evasive properties of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif//forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
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It is obvious that Eileen's (string)/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif ducks highs, and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif jumps over lows, but after a blocked /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, both are capable of avoiding elbow class attacks. My findings:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif ducks under
Goh's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance (tight timing for closed)
Brad's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance
Pai's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif in either stance
Lei Fei's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance
Lau's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in open stance
Jeffry's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance
Vanessa's DS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif in open stance
Wolf's 180/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance
Sarah's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance
Jacky's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif jumps over
Eileen's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance (very tight timing)
Lion's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif in either stance

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Test out her other string cancel shit and post your findings Eileen playas.

 

yea i figure those evasive were useful for somethings. Nice you laid out some moves it evades.

 

Well, these are the "elbow class" attacks that are preprogrammed into the dojo.

I would learn more with all the moves if VF5 had a record function.
(fuckin' Sega /*said in the same way one complains about Kage)

 

I finished my Eileen basics guide (bottom of page 3) -- comments, criticism, praise, suggestions and additions welcome!

 

Ok will do Myke. Thanks. :>

 

yea post it on another thread as ppl pay attention to it more. Also I feel your pain dude with Eileen. Pai is my main character but her latest dojo forum message is from may jeez.

 

Edit /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif!

*Staggers high guard
*Abuse leads to stagger recovery> Throw/Elbow mixups

It is only abusable until the opponent knows how to deal with it. (akin to Vanessa's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif)

 

I find that I miss a lot with that move, I've kinda taken it out've my arsenal of attacks. I just pop it out once in a while to remind my opponent that it exists if I see them stand guarding too much but it's easy to block it on reaction.

 

It's only good immediately after 6P+K imo. Her other lead-ins to 214K push the opponent out too far, leading to whiffing. It is an AWESOME move still, just mix it up with 6P+K,P -> Zenk stuff so that the opponent can't just block low on reaction.