VF in Belgium and The Netherlands

NGK:
It doesn't reverse full circular kicks (ie. the mid or high crescent, MCR and HCR in the movelists). I knew about it not handling double limbs and shoulders, YY stance will get fragged by a byakko for example (Brad's 46k+g and phasing turn p+k are knee class and not double limbed btw, despite the obvious elbow+knee animation).

1P is a 23 frame move, I think you can YY evade that thing on reaction quite easily.

It's also elbow counterable on block, -6 on hit and only evades highs at the very end of the animation. Really dude, Brad would kill for a move with Jeff's 2k+g's properties. Brad's 2k+g = -19 on block, -19!!!, -22 in the case of the tornado combination. There's a reason I don't like using them, the risk/reward percentage is absolutely crap.

Heh, Lau's PPP2K is -25 on block.
Of course Jeff's running P+K beats it all with -66 on block.
I was wrong, Kage's 66P+K+G = -71.

 

haha, for real, i though running P+K was unblockable, never had it blocked in my life!

well, that makes yy a bit easier to battle, i will now only use sarah vs aoi as she has a full circle launcher that works great on ch /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
yy did reverse headbutts right? or does her mid reverse do that?
i always get mixed up with the two.

about not using 2K+G(i'm sorry for just going on and going on, i'm just a bit random low sweep fan, hahaha! i think i'll have a t-shirt made!) i use it with all characters i play pretty effectively (well i'm happy with it) and they are all punishable ,some even pretty heavy like brad(the 2k+g class attack is pretty similair for a lot of characters). it's fast enough for it to work when you are pressuring and making it full circle for brad gives an extra reason to use it for pressuring and keeping people locked-up. and btw, wouldn't it be great if people where crouching vs brad, keep em guessing and you will give more dmg than take it (and an extra lol, since when do people in our group punish consistantly/effectively/at all?)

 

In nearly all cases (and most certainly brad's case), you're simply not gonna be blocking a sweep on reaction. Therefore it's safe to assume that if you're just gonna throw it out every so often, it won't get blocked. If people are gonna start blocking low, it's like Twan said: You've just got yourself one hell of a chance there (only when you know how to take advantage of it, which I don't...not with Lau at least). Brad's sweep doesn't give advantage on hit, though, so I wouldn't know how to effectively make use of it, but it's gotta be useful in some way..

 

Alright that's cool, I think you can expect me around 14.00 or something, might be earlier or later, provided i don't get lost on the way over >_> I don't have your address or phone number so if you could pm me those that'd be sweet /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

See you next week. Talked to my boss and he was pissed off with the replacement i got but then i told him to fuck off and quit whining and it was all fine

 

Niet weer ziek worden op het laatste moment he =P

 

nee, ik zal deze keer de avond van tevoren niet teveel drinken op een verkoudheid -_-

 

Yo, I´ve been thinking yea. I might drop Eileen. She´s been feeling very stale to me lately. I might just learn Goh fulltime now. I will be nowhere near my ability with Eileen for a while I guess but I´m having more fun.

 

If you're gonna drop her, I'm gonna pick her up.. She's too good =X

EDIT: Okay, well, maybe not, but someone should pick her up, because she's still too good...

Everyone wants to play Goh now, it seems. I guess I'll never be returning to him . I'm liking Lau more and more each day. It really feels like he's perfect for learning how to play the game correctly+I just like the way he plays overall. Still thinking about a second character, I'm seeing a lot of things I like in most characters now, so it's hard to really make a choice (not that I mind, though, haha).

So who's all coming to Ake's place?

- Ake (..duh)
- Krye (me)
- Fulan
- Bumfood
- Sp00n
- Vortigar
- Yrvin
- 12Politie!
- Pascal (1 dag ofzo?)
- ?

Nieuwe dudes die willen komen? Weet Sofiane er al van (had gehoord dat die het de komende tijd druk had in het weekend, maar weet dat niet zeker)? Mis ik nog iemand?

 

good games Fulan, i'm feeling like i'm learning a lot from playing against you like always. Made way too many mistakes still and my inputs are screwing up with the jumping kicks / punches which is something i have to work on, otherwise i think it went sorta well. At least are matches were a lot closer than when i played Wolf vs your Eileen.

Your Goh seems pretty nice already, he's hard to get a read on in my opinion but this might be because of my inexperience of playing against Goh. Keep it up is what I'd say /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

theres a tekken tournament that weekend too i think, that's been a while. always exciting as there are so many great players here in holland.
hey ful, that's too bad you are thinking about dropping her, but maybe some fresh blood will do you good. if you don't feel that connection anymore it's time to move on i guess. i have been thinking about taking her up the last month orso as i really enjoyed playing her when i did, but the input heavyness of her kept me from really going for it at the time, i think it'll be a nice challenge now. but don't let that keep any of you, i've already got my 2 characters i guess..(i'd like to see more character overlaps anyway now tbh, as everyone plays differently you learn to play a character better than only vs a person if more than 1 play the same character).

how are the juggles and confirms going bumfood? can you guys give a more detailed description of your online matches, what mistakes you think you or the other person is doing? i'd be interested in reading about that("gg! gg!" is nice and all, but we want the dirt!)

 

Fulan:
I went from Goh to Vanessa to Brad before I really found my footing in VF5. Vanessa especially broke my heart, I love that girl's fire so much, but my playstyle isn't really aligned with her. I'm still thinking of going back but picked up Lion instead, a character I knew truly nothing about, as he is a better change of pace.

NGK:
Tekken tourney? <quick check>
Hmmm, Sof's not on the list of attendees.

Too much input for ya?
I've got the same problem with Lion, you need to push a lot of buttons to keep that boy moving properly... Coming off Jeff must agravate the problem, Brad is already halfway up the list with extra inputs for stances and such. Blaze is rather input heavy too isn't he?

And yes, write out the specifics on shortcomings, very useful to base advice upon and very useful to get to grips with your own problems.

Bumf:
Oh yeah, on any crumple => /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. Doing anything less is a waste of damage. I'm not 100% on this myself, but you don't want to get used to doing anything other than this. This also works against the heavies on stomach crumple, you need fastest input to get the knee to hit though, against them you can actually get more damage with a delayed /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif(popup),/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

Aside:
Finally got 100% completion with Brad on the PS3! Whahahahaha!
The last character was a real pain too, spent twenty minutes flicking into and out of the last arcade and then got her (A Vanessa). I promptly lose the match. "Oh, well, I can always challenge her again." But no! A tournament pops up at the arcade in question (removing everyone from the cabinets). Took me another half an hour of flipping back and forth to get het again...

I'm real fond of my latest costumization too, Russian Cab Driver Bradt, flat cap and featureless grey/beige clothes.

 

Meh, I'm aiming to finish at least one more arcade with Goh this weekend, I don't really feel like playing him anymore (although it was refreshing to pick him up again after playing Lau-only for a while), so it's a real hassle to beat all these stupid AI's with him, I think I'm gonna put in on easy so I can just do other stuff while I mash 66k or something...

About the costumizations: can't beat El Capitán's new sunglasses /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif.

It's hard to get the throwescapes into my rhythm, I'm trying to do at least one throwescape every time I evade, because that's easy as hell and it provides a base to work from to add more throwescapes, but so far it's not become muscle memory at all, I guess I just gotta think of it more often, maybe stick a note to my screen or something, it'd be cool if I had it down by the time the meeting comes along...

Back to training, I guess..

 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally got 100% completion with Brad on the PS3! Whahahahaha!
The last character was a real pain too, spent twenty minutes flicking into and out of the last arcade and then got her (A Vanessa). I promptly lose the match. "Oh, well, I can always challenge her again." But no! A tournament pops up at the arcade in question (removing everyone from the cabinets). Took me another half an hour of flipping back and forth to get het again...</div></div>
haha oh wow, that must have sucked, talking about unlucky

 

haha sure thing Twan.

@Everyone
Me and fulan played for about 1.5 hours that night and I learned some more things. He played as Goh the whole time and we had some good matches, i'm losing rounds because of mistakes and input errors i keep making.

I'm really trying to implement the slipping/ducking moves into my arsenal but they're hard to pull off correctly, more like i try to do the slip left (or right) but the opponent always just hits me so I need to find the right spot where to use those moves. I shouldn't just be using them as my opening attacks.

Whenever me and Fulan came to a close matchup e.g. us both having low health i was totally unable to do anything which really annoyed me. I just don't know what moves to use in that situation, anyone got some tips? I'm used to being able to use Wolf's shoulder in the situation where someone whiffs but with Brad I don't know what move to use yet.

I'm also noticing that I keep doing throws after I've hit someone, I did this with Wolf a lot but it just doesn't work with Brad . I should learn to throw less in my opinion, so far my Brad game seems to be focused somewhat around throwing the opponent quite a few times. It gets the job done but I feel like I'm playing Brad the wrong way. I should take him into practice and get a feel for his moveset instead of trying to play him so defensively.

I also noticed that when I was playing against Fulan that I need to learn throw escapes drastically. He taught me a little again on how to pull them off and I just need to learn where to use them and after which move etc. Basically I need to look into the wiki page some more and maybe learn them better at the meeting seeing as I seem to learn more when I play against other people IRL. I learned more in the one meeting I went to than looking on the wiki pages.

Another mistake I'm noticing is input errors. I seem to be doing Wolf's moves and these make Brad jump forward and kick/punch or backwards and kick/punch. This is too damn dumb so slap in the face for me /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

@Vortigar
You need to show me where to use that combo after crumple at the meeting for sure, I'll try to get it to work on the 360 but I don't know what moves cause a crumple with Brad yet but I'll toy around a little bit.

Long enough Twan?

 

Haha I feel you. When i strated trying out Goh I subconsiously was trying to just do ALOT of moves because that's what I was used to. Took a while to get used to the fact that Goh is more powerfull and you need to be a bit conservative with him.

Anyways maybe i was speaking too soon about dropping her. I'm just having a lot of fun with Goh now even though I still suck with him. So yea I dunno what I'll do. Imma just have fun.

oh on a side note

I FINALLY I HAVE MY MODDED VSHG!

*edit*

About my play session with bumfood, low throwing Brad when he goes into slipping/ducking is AWESOME.

 

As you guys probably guessed already, I can't attend the meeting cuz of work. I might try to ask for a half day off on saturday so I can attend the tekken toerney, but a whole weekend is not gonna happen now.

Still playing Akira as main, and yes still flipping between characters to find a 2nd one, hmm maybe I will try Kage again if Fuulani isn't playing him. Anyway good to hear that you guys are still playing and practicing stuff.

Greetz,

Sofiane

 

sucks dude

 

he Sof, hope you can make for at least one day. if you have a day off in the coming weeks we'll do some matches!

so for the meeting i'm counting 8 peeps so far.
ngkrush, vortigar, spoon, yrvin, fulaani, kyre, bumfood and me.
i have 4 tv/screens and 1 ps3, so i guess we need 2 more consoles. you decide amongs yourself who will bring what.

 

i can bring my 360 if you have a sleeping bag for me, lack of bagspace prevents me from bringing both at the same time :<

also ake could you maybe give a little guide to how i get to your place by train? Did you pm your address and phone number yet?

Also some news from work, I managed to find a replacement but he turned up today instead of next week and he can't work for me next week so I'll probably show up sometime around 3-4 in the afternoon. That is unless I find a new replacement.

 

That's bad news Sofiane =[, hope you can make it next time!

Bumf00d, you should buy some good luck charms or something .

I'll talk to my parents about taking the car again, they'll prolly tell me to go buy my own car or something, but you never know.. If I can't go by car, then I won't be able to bring my 360.

I had some reaaaally good matches against sp00n today! I found out Lau vs Aoi isn't really a matchup I like, so I decided to bring out Goh! We had some really nice games there, I ETEG'd pretty often, but I only escaped one throw because I didn't know which throws he was using (I guess I got lucky once, haha). It's good to see some improvement on that part =]. I also escaped his groundthrows about 50% of the time, which I really liked. And my ground struggles (? I dunno the proper term, just getting up from the ground really fast if you haven't techrolled) were working wonders as well, I guess I should thank my stick for that =]. I had some problems like throwing out moves too much and also missing a lot of hit throws (66k+g->4p+g mainly), but that's just me learning how to deal with the stick I think, it should be alright if I just practice it a bit!

Sp00n played really well, he was evading a lot of stuff and then when I was like: I'm gonna full circular/grab you now! He would duck them or reverse or something, very very nice! He also made me feel how good Aoi's range game is, and got me with a few g-cancels into throws (I don't like 0-frame..)! Very good matches man, we should play more often, because I think we'd get better really fast!