VF ARENA

Discussion in 'Tournaments and Events' started by Blitzball Champ, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I may have multi rage posted on vfcd but I don't hold my tongue for nobody. Especially for the defense of a homie.
     
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  2. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    LOL @Jason Elbow why don't u get in the room with @Blitzball Champ when we FT10? you can be next in line to play the winner. @Shang will be streaming and doing commentary. what say you?
     
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  3. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    hmmm. i work at 11pm....we shall see.
     
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  4. Blitzball Champ

    Blitzball Champ Well-Known Member

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    Ah, that explains it!
     
  5. Blitzball Champ

    Blitzball Champ Well-Known Member

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    What are your best available times this week if that one doesn't work?
     
  6. Shang

    Shang Well-Known Member

    @Blitzball Champ, let's be frank. I like you, as a person. We can chat about shit on the the mic, Final Fantasy or not, it's alright.

    That being said, I'll speak to @Blitzball Champ, the player now. You aren't gonna beat @Chief_Flash... There's nothing to earn here. You are gonna get crushed in a boring and unexciting manner. I recommend to make things interesting a 8 game handicap. If @Chief_Flash's willing practices for 30 mins ahead of the match, I'd say a 9 game, no throw or forfeit round, handicap.

    I mean really... 220 club VIP @Jason Elbow just gave you advice. That's the not sad part, the sad part is it's actually valid advice.You know why no one watches VF Arena? Cuz it's boring as fuck. Every 3 month I muster enough interest, mostly out of boredom, and check out the stream... it's the same shit over and over. And just about every time I remind you the same shit:
    Don't use 6+pp cuz it's shit move.
    Don't use 4+kg,k cuz it's a shit move.
    use 1+pk,
    use hcb+pp,
    use p,k
    use 2+p
    use CATCH THROWS

    when you do combos it's like you are randomly pressing buttons. It's not hard to go to dojo and follow the instructions on which combo for which tier of characters. Remember what I said about Knee combo vs. Lion? It's not even stance depended.. just do it when you fight him, it's extra damage. Nope... it's like ur mind is stuck in a hamster loop. What @Jason Elbow said was like Wolf 101... 46p > no TR > combo is like one of the strongest Wolf shit in FS.
    #1, It does like 1/2 damage, which is not "LITTLE" damage at all.
    #2 it push the opponent to the edge of the ring, many times gives instant RO.
    #3 even if doesn't instant RO them, their back will close to the ring and will be under a ton of pressure from TR game. If you use the 6+pp finisher at the end of the combo, they are basically forced to TR or take an additional 3+pk pounce damage (remember you've pushed them to the corner already?). If they can't TR the 6+pp, you can do over 1/2 damage.
    #4, If they CAN TR the 6+pp, this is where it gets interesting... you can use hcb+pp finisher which will give you enough advantage to attack TR. hcb+pp will spin the opponent side way. people almost always TR and evade AWAY FROM CORNER to the direction they spin toward (because they want to get out of corner), you can time ur 3kg or another hcb+pp to crush their evade. Or just use 46+pg catch to eat their TR/Evade. Either way they will be under a ton of pressure, and if you guess right, you auto win round. If you guess wrong, no big deal.

    Sounds like fun right? nope.. And here's where i'm gonna go back to why people don't respect you, and VF Arena is boring to watch: Cuz you don't do any of these shit.. It's like a fucking hamster wheel when you play.. same thing over and over. All these fun stuff about VF, the mind game don't exist. It's like the same shit over and over.. I mean 6pp not during a combo why? 4kgk? why??? every time i see you use that move I feel like someone is screaming next to my ear with a megaphone that saying " YOU ARE WASTING YOUR FUCKING TIME!!"

    I mean for real the only way @Blitzball Champ, the player is gonna beat @Chief_Flash the player in FS when @Blitzball Champ puts @Chief_Flash into coma with his rudimentary combos and his borg-like yomi.

    GG.
     
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  7. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Blitz as a friend, Shang has a valid point. You tend to not maximize some of Wolf's strengths. Like Screw Hook, 6 p p+K, 6 6 p+g, 9 p+g (my personal favorite), p k (cancel) into mixup, 4 p+K etc. He also has more damaging combos you should be doing. You should also end a low bounce combo with p, 6 6 k+g for max damage (unless your setting up for a meaty then you end with hcb p p). Shang and Chief may be assholes, but they do know wolf. You need to hit the dojo bruh bruh.
     
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  8. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Oh and Shang I amended my comment referring to the combo after 46 p as a "little" extra damage. It does a Huge fucking chunk a damage. So please move on...
     
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  9. Blitzball Champ

    Blitzball Champ Well-Known Member

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    @Jason Elbow @Shang Well I do respect your opinions and words of wisdom. Allow me to respond. In no way, shape, or form do I ever mean any disrespect towards anyone, but as a player, let me stress a few things.

    #1 VF Arena is just not for me, it is for anyone. Just because I host it doesn't mean I have to be the one the plays each episode. My main thing was contributing to the scene. If it means allowing the much better players to play and I just sit back and commentate, I am perfectly fine with that.

    #2 I thought the last time we played a bunch Shang I felt like you mention that I did a few things right, but I guess not. But to address some of the things you said. 6pp and 6pp+K I do need to get out of the habit of, so that is a mind thing for me. 4k+gk I rarely use anyway unless it is in a combo. 1p+k I really didn't think to use as a lone attack until Jason Elbow spoke of it because I really didn't know to follow up after it, so that is new for me. hcb+pp I used to use a lot until it was getting blocked more than hitting, so I tend to use it more occasionally and to end the 4p combo or 3k+g combo. pk yeah i have to work that in more. 2+p I could have sworn that I use that plenty as a poke, but I assume you mean doing that into throws more instead of standing p, so if you could clarify, that would be good. I also use plenty of catch throws ever since like a few months ago, so I have no idea what you have seen lately, but I assure you that ain't the case. It's not that I randomly hit buttons at all, but I do need to dojo more for sure because sometimes I drop combos and don't mean to at all. I occasionally get rusty on button presses sometimes because I get nervous, which I am just being honest.

    #3 @Chief_Flash spoke something on yomi, but I really don't know what the heck that is, so elaborate on that if you can.

    #4 Once again, I don't want nor need any handicap at all. If I am going to do this, I am going to do this the right way regardless of what happens.

    #5 That is a combo I will learn, I just felt like going by my observations that more people I have fought tend to tech roll after 46p 85% of the time.

    Anyway, that is all I have for now. Carry on.
     
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  10. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Well the combo after 46 p will only work if the opponent doesn't tech roll. That why hit confirming is so important. If you micro dash and the p hit do the combo. If they recover p won't put you at a big disadvantage. You can fuzzy, evade etc. They mostly try blocking on wake up though if they do recover. If not you got defencive options.
     
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  11. Shang

    Shang Well-Known Member

    No Mr. VIP @Jason Elbow, hit confirm in this situation is not important at all.
     
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  12. leftylizard

    leftylizard Well-Known Member

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    Don't let anyone tell you that you can't beat someone. Chief Flash is good but he is human and will not always make correct guesses. You play Wolf so you have knowledge of Flash's character. Just don't be predictable whatever you do and watch your ring positioning(wolf loves ring outs) and you should have a chance.
     
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  13. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, yomi cannot be taught @Blitzball Champ. It's either you have it or not. Ask yourself this,"why do I lose?" everytime u lose and you'll be ever so closer to attaining it. I'll explain more after our match OK. I'm sure the only question @Jason Elbow asks himself is, "Where's my G button?" @Shang confirm???
     
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  14. Blitzball Champ

    Blitzball Champ Well-Known Member

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    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yomi Kinda surprised that this is in Urban Dictionary, which I thought was just supposed to be all dirty words! LOL! Anyway, yomi. Why have I not heard this term in other fighting games? VF is literally where I hear this. So knowing your opponent and what they are going to do by getting into their head. So I guess my question is, which you don't have to answer if you don't want to give it away, do you usually alternate between attempting to focus on conditioning an opponent to act a certain way so that you can capitalize and actually working your way into the opponent's head?
     
  15. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Like if you keep hit them low to get them to block low in order to open up your mid game.
     
  16. Jason Elbow

    Jason Elbow Well-Known Member

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    Yes....it is. The p must in order to do the rest of the combo. If it doesnt... no combo.
     
  17. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    @Blitzball Champ yomi is a lost art in FS. Just press buttons and u win.

    Yomi = ability to read your opponent's mind.

    95% of NAVF lack this art. Congrats @Blitzball Champ, you've seen part of the light!
     
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  18. Blitzball Champ

    Blitzball Champ Well-Known Member

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    I see. So in general, especially coming from you as a player that has much competition experience, it is safe to say that one must learn this to the point that you shouldn't take anymore than 1 round of a fight to be able to quote/unquote Download Complete?
     
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  19. kungfusmurf

    kungfusmurf Well-Known Member

  20. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    You should always be downloading as the match progresses. U download after every punch, after every kick, and after every move. When the round resets, you use those mental notes to make ur advance. You're welcome @Blitzball Champ
     
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