The Truth about VF...

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

lol, you know what's offensive? You.. your stupidity, your lack of vf knowledge, your desperate cry for attention on a website dedicated to something you know nothing of... If you only knew something more about VF than upping your post count on VFDC people might actually give a shit of what you say. So go play some Quest Mode and in the mean time, STFU.

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

Jesus; The question wasn't directed towards you and neither was it he who defined the word offensive in context of the rules to the site in case you failed to comprehend that part. What it has to do with playing quest or you considering yourself worth more then other people is beyond me and neither do I think he wanted to know your opinion on the matter. The silly analogy / VF2 attack from earlier in this thread is in deja vu.

I think the line about you having a priviledge to insult people you don't know whilest the same doesn't apply to you really hit the core. Cause that's the mindset of those defending you to hell and back seem to embark wether they wish to see it that way or not. Maybe that should be written in the rules instead of that mumbo jumbo about applying basic netiquette which you react so strongly towards (don't take away my playground!). Actually; the irony of "the Shangster" accusing other to do stuff for attention is so thick you would need a katanablade to cut it.

Imho I think it's clear as daylight that you -are- here to make offensive posts and -nothing- else.
Have a wonderful life people.



/KiwE

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

Without breaking out a dictionary, I would urge those concerned about Shang's antics to consider what the term "offensive" might mean in the context of the internet and whether or not any messageboard trash talk could ever rise (plunge) to that standard.

As a fun little experiment you could try to google image search "offensive" and see what pops up. Or doesn't. I certainly hope not at least. Freak! Man you have problems, you sick bastard.

My point is, Shang might flame on excessively & it may be annoying to some people & grind topics to a halt or keep them going far too long but I think you're hard pressed to call what he does "offensive", especially in terms of what you can find after www. .

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

So if someone says fuck your MOM(American spelling right? )

Thats not offensive /versus/images/graemlins/blush.gif

One rule for shang One rule for the others /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

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So if someone says fuck your MOM(American spelling right? )

Thats not offensive

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Without video documentation, no it isn't.

My opinion.

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

You hit the mark sanjuro, the internet is a very "offensive" place if you like to take that standpoint which I don´t. Another thing I love about it, is that I make a post in this thread, a post with an argument, and the reply I get is basically: "Well... you´re gay". Argument closed, this simply doesn´t happen in real life debates. Hillarious rather than "offensive" if you ask me. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

*sigh* ----- even if shang is trying to be funny, he's using the same things in every post, people who want to get cussed may as well add an additional post after theirs establishing "oh yeah, i suck, wolf sucks, kage is cheap and i dont know what i'm talking about", and would probably still cover all his vocab.

infact that would probably narrow the rest of his post down to 5% (if you're lucky) of VF logic which actually is pretty good -- you could probably even peice the rest of it together and make an average post worth. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif


btw, offence cant be justifyed, when people get offended its an offence.. especially if you JUST DONT GET IT YET! after it's been told to you X number of times /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif

>walks out and finds some other thread to browse

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

Unfortunately it is not you who decide what I find offensive, it is me. If people say this is offensive, then it is. Get it into your heads.

It is also possible to hold internet forums which hold intelligent talk instead of typical bs like what has been going on here. For instance two finnish forums that I use delete flames within day's notice and ban people for a month for repeated flaming and similar stupid behaviour. The finns flame less in general, partly because we tend to mean what we say, as do I.

The American way of forums is not the only way.

Even though I know what Shang is doing, that doesn't make it any less stupid, nor less offensive. This is why I won't respond to him directly as it would be pointless.

Shang's behaviour is not only offensive, it is nonconstructive and will damage the public view of not only this site, but americans in general since you seem to favor his antics. Not to mention he has propably scared away a fair share of beginners for good who logged here for the first time or so.

I cannot think of any sane reason why to allow him continue. This site should not be the place for this, there are enough bs sites in the world as it is.

- Manji

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

unfortunately no one gives a shit if you are offended. Reading your rightous bullshit makes me want to puke. I am nonconstructive?? Let's just say I contribute 5% out of my total posts. That is more than VF knowledge than you can imagine. 99% of people like you post some stupid shit like "oh I found combo X!", "I'm Champion rank with 8383 wins and 0 losts"... Oh yeah.. and here is a cracker, I scared newbies away.. LOL, you are a moron.I'm going to contribute something to you about vf right now noobie #887: VF is a game either your love it or you don't. If you love it, you'll try play it regardless of who's trying to stop you. And if you don't... people could be calling, and begging you to play and you still won't play. You think someone like me could drive away a person who truely love the game?? HAHA you stupid fuck! Nobody gives a fuck about people who's just playing some vf cuz he's not getting laid, or just feels bored. LIKE YOU!
So please go preach your shit to someone who cares, try PMing Kiwe cuz everyone ignores his posts.

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

Yeah I sort of agree. I have never felt offended myself on this site by anyone, but as long as a few people (or more) do, I think it should not be allowed.

What I think is healthy about Sanjuro's viewpoint tho is that you might as well grow some thick skin so you don't feel offended. You'll feel better and in that way you don't feed the offender with more reason to keep offending people.

But you're absolutely right that it's up to each one of us to decide if we feel offended or not, and there is not really any justification to offending people.

Who cares what some eurotrash has to say... oh well

// When's Ban Shang vol 2 coming? /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

<Smurfy> <font color="purple"> Get's back on the boat to China </font>

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

Wicked, nothing like a sweetass flamethread to keep me entertained. Keep bringing it folks, this is funny shit.

I've only been practicing Wolf for a cuppola months so I've no advice to offer, but I've been following the WolfisweakKageistehsux discussions with interest. In between all the ranting, there is actually quite some useful information to be found. At least for scrubs like myself.

Feel free to laugh at me, but I am actually picking up Kage now. If only to learn playing against him. Maybe it's just me, but no other chara has screwfucked me more than Kage. I'll try and use the stuff Shang has complained about and see how it goes.

Note that I'm not saying Kage's cheap or whatever, just that I cannot deal with him. Second is that fucking monk. Seriously, when I see my opponent pick Kage or Lei I just wanna headbut them.

I do feel Shangs pain in one regard, though, namely him being almost as good with Kage as with Wolf despite having practiced Wolf much more. I have probably played and practiced Brad more than five times more than Jacky, Goh, Jeff, Lau put together nonetheless Brad is my weakest chara. And yes, Jacky is my best. I guess some of us definitely are more apt at using some charas over others. This does not only apply to VF, I have the same "problem" with the KoF series, CvS2 etc.

I would, however, like to go on the record in saying that Kiwe, despite my suckige with Brad has tried to educate me on the chara and has repeatedly shared pretty interesting strats. Props to the man from Sweden.

Thats's about it, keep it up.

PS: Oh yeah one more thing. I'm from Europe. I'm no fag. Neither are the other Europeans here (at least I think they aren't, which is not to say that there would be sth. wrong if they were). Btw., just because it was discussed previously, referring to a person's sexual inclination with the intention of insulting them clearly IS offensive. Still, this is the internet, so relax guys. Start worrying about folks who insult you to your face. And then fuck em up!

Remember, we don't all need to be friends.

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

Start worrying about folks who insult you to your face.

A friendly advice: look up StoneCold's profile on the site from his sig before starting doing so.

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Post

u people need to get a life, this is the internet, quit crying about "oh oh oh so and so offended me".. Fuck you. Let's put it this way, if you have the balls to go to a gathering and meet me, you already gain 1/2 of my respect. It's all these motherfuckers who living in their mom's basement who played some VF and think they are the shit talking about balance, combos, what not. Just a big fuck you to all of ya. You think you know VF? you know nothing... look at siyko, he was a quest noob until he met me, went to a couple of big gatherings... and now he even gets modded on irc once awhile.

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Logic

Shang, you suffer from a extreme case of hybris. I mean extreme, just look at your last post. Now the question is - who should really get a life? One who suffers from hybris over a playstation videogame and bullies people cause of it or the ones who want to talk in an adult / constructive manner on a forum which is said not to tolerate offensive posts etc? I know which people try to help the community and cause of that are interesting - counterstrike kiddy talk helps no one and is just a nuissance to sort through to get to read discussions that, I think, this website was created for. But go ahead, grab your shovel and your bucket and keep on playing in your sandbox - I for one will stop caring now.

Have fun. I <3 VF.
Yours sincerly,

/KiwE

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Logic

Kiwe suffers from shang deprival syndrome

and that was his latest fix

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Logic

I think you meant hubris dude.

 

Re: Shang - Stupid Logic

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I for one will stop caring now

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Humm...... I wonder where I'd heard that before. /versus/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

Re: Bryan - Funny Post

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KiwE said:

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to be honest, VF discussion has gone dead lately..

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Well it's gone dead because of shit like this.

Results of flaming / whining = The one who screams the loudest wins, no newcomer to the site dares to post anything (gone from how many posts a day to none?), nobody wants to post strats / info cause of bs "discussions" it will elope to and the good players don't give a shit about the posts due to all the drama. Pardon me for not clapping - cause that's reality.

/KiwE

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Ya know, I think the only reason I read this topic past this 100% true post is because I knew at some point there would be more people posting than Shang. It brings a bit of solace to see something other than Shang's bitching in a topic.

On-topic: I honestly don't see the imbalance here. Granted, no game is going to have perfect balance except maybe Kung Fu, but that's boring because everyone plays the same. I mean, you look at Kage having a lot of fast attacks with minimal disadvantage and such, then look at Wolf having more disadvantage. The other thing I see to offset this is that all a good Wolf player needs is a decent opening to utterly rape someone with a much simpler to execute combo.

Yes, Kage has a good throw game to go along with his good striking game. Yes, it annoys me to hell and back when I get thrown by him and eat 40 points of damage from a normal throw with a possibility of a down attack. But that's what you deal with. In case you haven't noticed, Lau has a shitload of high damage opportunities and you don't see anyone other than new players bitching about him. He's used so much that it's easier to deal with his tactics because you have to b creatvie. The same is said about Kage, Akira, Jacky and, to a certain extent, Wolf. The difference is that in the end the Wolf player tagging you with something is going to hurt you a lot more.

 

Re: Bryan - Funny Post

Maybe I just suck, I dunno. It seems to me that Wolf is weak vs. most characters in VF. Vs. Sarah's flamingo. What options do you really have? You can't evade her kicks they track your evade and hit you. If you try to attack, she'll clip you with the somersault kick out of flamingo (or hit you with mostly anything else out of it), if you block you get thrown, or possibly hit by sweep or somersault out of flamingo (if you guess wrong). The odds are always in her favor, because she always has initiative. Blocking patiently and waiting for an opportunity always gets me thrown everytime; It's so easy for her to do. I find there isn't much more I can do other than block against flamingo. Then there's Vanessa. She can pull off lightening fast punch/kick strings, stop them at any point and throw you while you guard. Or, Wolf can block the entire string, stick something out and get hit by the next combo anyway, because there was no risk to the Vanessa combo (certain ones) in it's entirety anyhow. Again, maybe I just suck, or I'm missing something. It has gotten to a point where I can't keep up with my comp anymore due to things like the above mentioned.

Ever notice how when using Wolf, and you successfully evade an attack and attempt to follow it up with an attack of your own, and certain characters are already able to guard by the time you stick an attack out; but when your attack is evaded your open season (?). I find this to be complete and utter BS. What's the point of him evading then? Also, it seems like everytime a Wolf attack is guarded, you have to be able to use some variation of edteg or your f*cked (and even then, you're still not entirely safe). I don't think you should have to totally bust your ass for every win with Wolf, while other characters can just pound away at you with faster, safer moves and then just simply throw you when you're on the defensive. His weaknesses seem to be much too easy to exploit.

Maybe I'm being biased as a Wolf player, but when I was in NYC, I was most impressed by Burun Burun's play out of the tetsujin's. Yet, I saw him lose to Heruru and Kyasao consistently, and thought to myself; what can he possibly do against the tools of Kage and Lei at this level of play? Also, if I remember correctly, he even lost hard to some of the non tetsujin players who were using the likes of Lau and Kage.

For anyone who agrees that I don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about... maybe I don't (?). I have very limited comp, with which I can own in mirror matches invlolving the characters I use or mix and matches of them, but against certain characters, it's come to a point where I just can't keep up with Wolf anymore.

Wow, that was a really whiney post, sorry bout that /versus/images/graemlins/blush.gif