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this is why I don't bet on fights

 

I was so wrong about the fight.
Forrest is the best fighter at 205.

 

What happened... that was not the same Rampage that used to fight in KOTC and Pride. Not the same Rampage that won the title and defended it. He looked more out of shape AND he wasn't going for his patented Rampage slams /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif
Very dissapointed /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

i m very surptised. Did he just outclass him or was it like rampage is better but forrest was better tonite...

 

I was very impressed with Rampages, boxing, the feints, head movement etc, he seriously needs to work more on his ground work though. This fight was very close LHW division is very competitive and I doubt anyone will be holding on to the title for long streaks.

 

What won this was game plan. Forrest put together an amazing game plan.

 

Rampage won a new huge fan that night in me just based on how he handled that loss and didn't complain or bitch. In my opinion though Rampage got bad luck with hurting his knee early, first round he completely showed a display of striking skills that was fucking amazing. And the power he had; that's new. He didn't have power like that a year or so ago. Great great striking. I wonder though if his coach drills him to much in boxingstyle for good and bad; that was very poor legkick defence / checking (never countering back with straights etc) for a LHW champion. Maybe he's been exposed to a new weakness there outside the thai clinch from earlier.

I don't think Forrest will last long, if he runs into Jardine / Chuck or most probably Machida he will lose his belt quickly - even a rematch with Page will do it.

 

I really hope its Machida and Forrest next.

 

liddel forrest woul be an amazing fight, stylistically.

 

I personally think that forrest is gonna have the belt taken from him really quick. Either by machida or chuck. But in the meantime, I'm sure Dana is super happy right now. One of his low paid fighters from the reality show took the belt so that means he can save more money for his next vacation as well as bring some legitimacy to TUF which for the "most part" consists of low skill guys.

 

QFT.

How many of you guys think that Forrest didn't really win that match? I think that pointwise Rampage was ahead. I went back and watched the fight two more times and I'm positive that, for whatever reason (Dana), that fight was given to Forrest. Rampage shoulda won by unanimous decision.

 

I dunno

RD 1: 29-28- Page
2: 30-28 - forrest
3: 29-28- Forrest
4: 29-28- Forrest
5: 29/ - both

How I saw it

 

That fight was Forrest's - Rampage didn't come prepared at all which sucks as I had a sizable bet on him to win.

 

yeah he's always been strong but the improvement in technique has made it more prominent, I'd agree and say he's been focusing maybe a little too much on boxing, a bit more of the wrestling slams and ground and pound with the slick boxing next time page! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

Arkansas fight fans fall for Baron Cohen stunt

JON GAMBRELL

The Associated Press

July 8, 2008 at 6:20 AM EDT

Little Rock, Arkansas — Crowds in Arkansas came for the lure of cage fighting and $1 beer, but police say what they got instead was men ripping each others' clothes off and kissing — a stunt suspected of being orchestrated by Sacha Baron Cohen of Borat fame.

“We had a contract for cage fighting. We were deceived,” said Dwight Duncan, president and CEO of Four States Fair Grounds in Texarkana, where the first of two Arkansas fights raised suspicions last month.

Matt Labov, a Los Angeles-based publicist for Baron Cohen, said he had no comment Monday about the faked fights. One of Baron Cohen's movies is due out next year.

The day after the June 5 Texarkana bout, Fort Smith's convention centre hosted “Blue Collar Brawlin.”' Fort Smith police Sgt. Adam Holland said organizers told him a character named “Straight Dave” would goad a planted audience member into the ring for a fight.

The two men would then wrestle, rip away some of their clothes and share a brief kiss reminiscent of one between Baron Cohen and Will Ferrell in the film Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.

Producers said “there would be a romantic embrace,” Holland said. “They said it was kind of to essentially make fun, poke fun at wrestling — two guys rolling around on the floor, all sweaty.”

An elaborate array of mounted and handheld video cameras caught the crowd of 1,600's reaction as the two men “went right up to the line” of the city's morality laws, Holland said. The two men stripped down to their underwear, kissed and rubbed on each other, the sergeant said.

The audience, as well as local fighters drawn to take part in the show, became enraged. “It set the crowd off lobbing beers,” Holland said. “They had beers in plastic cups. Those things can get some distance on them actually.”

Holland said it took officers about 45 minutes to clear the convention center, as the two actors sprinted away through a specially set-aside tunnel.

Those in attendance were told by several signs on display that they'd be filmed, Holland said, and signed waivers before the event. Convention center sales director Karin Hobbs declined to name the event's sponsor Monday.

Baron Cohen became a national celebrity after his 2006 hit movie Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan, in which he played a bumbling reporter from the Central Asia nation.

News of the faked cage fights comes as Baron Cohen is in production of a movie titled Bruno, named after the gay Austrian fashion reporter he developed for Da Ali G Show. Baron Cohen, in the guise of Bruno, often interviewed hapless subjects in the South.

If the cage match visits came from Baron Cohen, it wouldn't be the first time Arkansas fell for a practical joke. In 2000, then-Gov. Mike Huckabee fell for a prank and congratulated Canada for preserving its icebound Parliament, calling it a “national igloo.”

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For those that watched the Koschek fight - Steve of SoCal has come up with a new UFC subtitle... "UFC 89 - Blood on the Camera![/size]"

 

hahaah...awesome on both! Beat me to it GE

 

it fedor emellianenko (sp) still dominating somewhere?

 

I'm not sure but you can look up all kinds of info on your favorite fighter in a lot of different MMA Blogs, such as this one:

http://www.mmascraps.com/2008/07/espn-mma-live-episode-9.html

ESPN MMA Live eps 9. Here Juanito Ibarra, Rampage's main trainer, talks about challenging the judges decision in the Jackson/Forrest fight. He probably won't get the decision overturned but at least he will have a sitdown with all 3 judges (Dana will prob be there /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif ) and have them explain how they could have given that fight to Forrest unanimously.
The best that Forrest should have received, imho, was a draw.

I'm not even talking as a fan here. I looked at that fight numerous times myself trying to figure out how Forrest won unanimously. He backpeddled and got punched in the face more than twice as many times as he caught Quinton with leg kicks.
That ain't a win in my book and most certainly not an unanimous one at that.

Here's an interesting quote from Lyoto Machida:
"Look.. to me, Quinton beat Forrest, but they gave it to Forrest. I think the UFC wants a champion that Chuck Liddell can beat, so he can win the belt again.. he is an ex-champion, sells more and has more marketing."

Now before anybody starts hating on Machida, know this: he is 13 and 0 and has won all of his 5 fights straight since he debuted in the octagon. He will be the next champ unless he faces Anderson Silva at some point who would just brutalize him.

Now, Chuck... he's still a contender and he's looking to make a comeback in a big way. Let's see if he gets rid of that trademark keg and upgrades to a six-pack. From what I've heard, the dude has been working hard.
Just my two cents, only time will tell, it's getting harder to speculate nowadays, MMA is not as predictable as it used to be. Which is good in more ways than one.

 

Lyoto is dead on.