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Taking online "seriously"

Discussion in 'Xbox Live' started by JHow77, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

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    Never did homey, just razzing ya. I'm pretty sure I put one of these [​IMG] at the end of my post but here's a few more so that hopefully you can tell that it's really not that fackin serious:
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    Lighten up, my VF brothers, let's have some fun [​IMG]

    P.S. All you internet thugs and gangsters out there, make up your fucking mind, are you sensitive guys or tough guys?
    Put your shoulders up, play the game (or don't) and chill the fuck out. For seriously.
     
  2. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    T1L ALL AR3 0N3
    LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL owl pics FTW!
     
  3. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

    XBL:
    erdraug
    I at least hope vanessa players are allowed to point out that lag doesn't particularly help her.

    Lion on the other hand... time to bust out those -30 on block moves [​IMG]
     
  4. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    OMFG Lion, don't even get me started. Lag basically helps characters that had unsafe moves that are of reasonable exe speed. Characters that were already safe *coughelieencough* don't gain a ton from it.

    I keep hearing people complaining about spammy eileen players, but where are these players you speak of? At least in the North East there aren't any dedicated eileen players that rock online. Unless you guys are talking about the eileens that used to show up here and there back when VFonline was popular and had players outside of this website playing. Some of those players were kinda annoying, but she can be punished real bad, especially if your opponent just spams.

    Erdraug you Vanessa players complain all you want, I sure know I will when I feel like it calls for it. As a matter of course I don't typically complain because at the end of the day this is a game I play for fun.

    Why so serious ?
     
  5. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    Spam Theory

    The thing with online and spamming is that it is buffed up for various reasons that we all have to deal with. There are many kinds of spam and many things that are arguably spam or not depending on you look at it. There's the half stage away -> start with some string and finish it or go to anther move, string w/o really even paying attention to what hit/whiffed/got blocked... Or there's 2p->throw/mid w/o hit checking... ditto for evade -> throw/attack Or 44 -> attack. And there Jacky's slide shuffle that is so spammer friendly that it should be called "spam shuffle". And Jacky's my neglected #3 char so I know of what I speak. I think we have all played a spam shuffler and no I'm not talking about Denkai.

    These are all things that take skill to punish offline and may be even safer online. Probably everyone does some/all of this shit at some point. I think lag makes it easier to string strings together and not get interrupted as much. And of course moves with little guard stun are harder to punish. DMPK is the worst and thank the VF Gods that AM2 has settled the DMPK argument for all time. Lau's 9p practically gives advantage on block with many connections...

    I like VF online and think it is still great to play, but it does take some things are maybe not great and makes them a little worse. But what are you gonna do, go over to Tekken and play female characters in spandex shooting boobie lasers at each other?
     
  6. Lucky_GT

    Lucky_GT Well-Known Member

    Re: Spam Theory

    Lol, what the fuck?

    I don't even know what to say...
     
  7. EmX

    EmX Well-Known Member

    Re: Spam Theory

    The consequences of pressing a button and it registering on screen 2-5f later than usual: a collaborative dissertation by VFDC, PhD
     
  8. Darthminion

    Darthminion Well-Known Member

    lmao you might turn happy on by these beauties!!
    [​IMG] LoL!
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  9. smince82

    smince82 Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    wyliewood
    XBL:
    xsmincex
    you all go on about lag affects play and you have to take the buffer into acount but at the end of the day if your good at vf in general then you will be good online even with a bit lag. as you all know i dont care who im playing i carry on even if im getting stuffed and because of that it helps my game. no offence but as long as you have 2-3 bars its fine, does'nt matter, it's knoledge and skill that makes you win or lose not lag, and anyone who plays with 2-3 bars and blames lag is jus making exuses. many a time where i get beat many games in a row and then maybe win a few in a row myself, then they leave and send message saying sorry lag/spikes and so on. no you got beat probly cause you were winning and started experimenting new moves cause you become over cofindent i know i have done that and i belive you all have aswell. defeat is a bitter pill to swallow but if you never lose you can never learn anything new [​IMG]
     
  10. Feck

    Feck Well-Known Member Content Manager Akira

    smince82, no offense but I don't realise how much impact lag can have on a persons playstyle. In a 2 bar connection i'm pissing lost frames all over the place, sure I can still play the game and have fun but that poor connection will hinder my ability to play quite a bit.

    Lag spikes are even worse, the game freezes and you end up with a totally different outcome to what you expected before the spike. I really don't mind playing in lag and i've played plenty of people from here with a 1 bar connection and had fun matches but poor play because of lag is not always "just an excuse".
     
  11. smince82

    smince82 Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    wyliewood
    XBL:
    xsmincex
    i agree with spikes ajusting your game but many players know this and back off till it sorts it's self out. as for a 2 bar conn it works fine for me.everyone acepts that lag sways your game but everyone also takes that into account and changes their playstyle online. i know what you mean with 1-bar, however i belive it,s the players skill to adapt to the timing and reactions. i play kingo on a 2 bar he kick the living shit out of me for like 10 games to one, lag? flash also smashes me up 10-1 also 2 bar lag? theres countless otheres with 2-bar and i can win 10-1, below 2-bar its pointless. fact is people are competitive online and hate to lose so they blame lag, when really it's thier mistakes or the other player is more skilled.
     
  12. EmX

    EmX Well-Known Member

    smnice82 you can keep asserting that but it isn't going to make it true. I don't even say anything about lag as it relates to my skill in relation to other players. I mean what does it mean for me to say I'm better or worse when I already think lag is a major barrier to determining either outcome? If you can't sort that out you've got some pretty poor reasoning skills or wish against reason that your online wins count.

    I don't hide behind a computer screen regardless - I simply don't make enough money to go across the country to play on a regular basis. It's pretty clear that anyone saying online is more than a training tool and an inconsistent approximation of offline play does not understand VF or how the internet works at all.

    Latency is inherent to internet technology and it does affect the game. It's an empirically measurable fact that no fallacious appeal to "well this person is good regardless" is going to escape. Shut up about it already.
     
  13. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    yeah, 1/60=0.016667. This number can explains a general idea.
     
  14. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    @SMINCE - Emx is Trash...Shit he can have no lag on his end as still get fucking destroyed. Don't even waste your breath.. Getting him to hear your opinion is Like Kicking Astro-physics to a fucking Wino. He loves to hear himself talk.. I guess this is common for some STL players.
     
  15. EmX

    EmX Well-Known Member

    You're really stupid and arrogant for no real reason. If I had the same access to comp as you I'd be ashamed of having someone in my scene that thought what you did about online play. (btw what was the last score between you and the rest of the NY players offline?)

    I hope you quit VF because you only post cocky bullshit and you haven't won any tournies I'm aware of. You can't read, write or reason beyond an elementary school level. You do jack shit for this community and expect props because you mash online.

    You're good at hitting buttons and you sincerely think that entitles you to an opinion that does not square with reality. Go away.
     
  16. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    ATTN Mods: Please ban this account. Poster is obviously a Godokunodan sock puppet.
     
  17. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Hey its Happy_Friend... The one who does everything he hates but denies cause he has visions of grandeur.... Mister i can't lose 2 in a row or i quit because i find myself not worthy. I guess we really know who takes online seriously heh?


    AWWWW You butthurt because you were successfully trolled? wanna do something about it? Go to Dojo and do something about it rather than crying about online being the reason you lose. As for What i can do against The rest of the NYC crew offline? The same shit i do online..... Matter of fact you can't mention the NYC crew cause your that shitty. Wheres the "I see what your doing Owl" at? you trying to get me to talk about fellow NYC players huh lol!!!

    ATTN Mods: Im just having fun at this dudes expense... Why so serious? Its just a game right?
     
  18. EmX

    EmX Well-Known Member

    Air Jacky was more a more convincing troll than you. You're just an aggressive, derpy manbaby trying to backpedal.

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    The dynamic itt right now.
     
  19. jinxhand

    jinxhand Well-Known Member

    Just because we need more owls...

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    This joint is turning into SRK again-- for real man...

    But yeah, you can't take online seriously... Too much crap happens online, both in favor of both you and the opponent... Ask JE and SH players...
     
  20. leftylizard

    leftylizard Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    blue mouthwash
    You're really stupid and arrogant for no real reason. If I had the same access to comp as you I'd be ashamed of having someone in my scene that thought what you did about online play. (btw what was the last score between you and the rest of the NY players offline?)

    I hope you quit VF because you only post cocky bullshit and you haven't won any tournies I'm aware of. You can't read, write or reason beyond an elementary school level. You do jack shit for this community and expect props because you mash online.

    You're good at hitting buttons and you sincerely think that entitles you to an opinion that does not square with reality. Go away. [/quote]
    thats how east coast players are dude.they are cocky and arrogant. especially nyc. don't let it get to you. i knew a online player on another fighting game forum who's antics would make sds look like mother teresa.
     

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