Successful Evade of a Strike in an Attack String

I'm really confused by this feature and I couldn't find a reason to explain why AM2 prefer this extremely hitbox in FS(or R)? I see advantage of spammers, that's it.

 

There are tons of moves with different property. I'm bitching here because those moves belong to liner now can actually track your opponents on side. Is it ironic that we still call them "liner" in a 3D game?

Solution? Yes, all you need to do is evade twice, or 3 4 times based on the strings. Or simply stand there hold G to wait them finish their things. Because what's the point to evade at first and then still have to suffer again?

Newcomers would like to spam most likely, and one successful evade is probably enough to take them down due to the high damage issue in FS. How to please newcomers? Force the others to do more ~

 

Random aside:

I've been using E-dash-E-dash-E-dash to deal with strings lately.

That said, I'm wondering if Japanese players are doing E-dash-G-E-dash-G-E-dash-G as a safety for dealing with strings. Am I imagining that in FS (and maybe R, I haven't watched R videos) more of the higher level Japanese players are evading full strings?

I don't even think it's always because you get the guaranteed damage (though that's the biggest incentive actually), but maybe just Dash-G cancelled Evades in succession probably just works the way an option select does?

I imagine it's a great movement option select that should get you the evades you need on anything evade-able and getting a dash-cancelled guard against anything that you can block.

Again, haven't tested this... should have by now because it's been on my mind for a week already... But wondering if my suspicion is true

(P.S. Welcome back to the Chanchai ramble at 3am before bedtime!)

 

This "issue" hasn't been bothering me so I just haven't thought up of any examples myself. But I know a friend of mine is frustrated (or was) that Blaze's PPP would hit him even if he evaded.

For me, I felt that was because the third P is half-circular and the hit box is wide enough to hit him if he doesn't actively prevent it.

I have no idea how it was in VF5 though I think it was like this too back then, just that my friend is using evades more in his game than he used to.

I know you weren't directing the question at me, but that situation always comes to mind.

That said, I'm pretty much in Akai's boat on this topic ^_^

 

There are some moves(or lot) are powerful to do the trade off. Even you block them to earn advantage, the following consequence is not exactly "good enough" for you to punish back. Successful evade is another option to deal with this situation to make VF unique. In FS, the strings becomes so complex to end at different ways. Mid, high, low or whatever half or full circular. It looks like I'm not able to stop them "IN TIME" instead I need to suffer the rest of strings and make a flip coin decision at the end.

Yeah, this topic is about to describe this feature and I shouldn't put my personal opinion here. I'm not able to change what's been done in this game. Like what Feaucha said,
Being on someones right side and getting hit by their left hook when you swing at em lol. Is it about animation or property? I have no totally no idea.

 

Ha ha, so evade-2P is your friend? xD

I tend to think this problem is presenting itself more in FS, because evade-attack has been removed.

 

All I can say is I've already managed to lifetilt people with Brad ducking p+k, p with it. Counterhitting an evader with the second part delayed is the bee's knees.

 

The ducking p+k. Even if an opponent evades the first hit of ducking p+k,p the second hit will hit even a evade > elbow speed attack and launch. Let me tell you that me being -13 when this is guarded isn't enough for me to just throw it out from time to time =)

 

this video is awesome. Thanks dennis for sharing.