Still sounds years away.... 2016 before we see a SC or Tekken or DOA on the PS4 and xbone

here's the other two games:

My point is that there still exist option-selects that circumvent this rock-paper-scissors guessing structure, so this fundamental guessing game completely changes. At this point we have in fact created a completely different guessing structure for different situations. This is a greater information burden on the player. Information burden is an accessibility barrier to potential high-level players. The ones who don't stick around to overcome this barrier often see it as virtually impenetrable. This is where the idea that VF is hard comes from. This is the very crux of the whole debate.

Also yeah, I could see the comparison to SF3's parries in that they exist to cheat around the actual risk/reward dynamic. I still like 3S, but it should not be held up as a gold standard for fighting game design.

Thank you for clearing up the previous reply to me.

I can't disagree with the shortcut on how the parry system worked from SF3, because that was what made it funny to me. I wouldn't think of SF3 or other fighting games from it's design to be gold standard, though it's bit fanatic and geeky for me to think about such a label. I do not mind unbalance games as it can be partly fun, but the other half I can say that overcoming specific one-sided matchups didn't turn out to be as rewarding from demonstration of yourself and the other person (remembering Kuroda, if spelled right?) as I hoped for at the time. So, I can agree with you.

And it was..