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Should Akira be the main charater of VF?

Discussion in 'General' started by shabulia, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

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    Hype!
     
  2. jinxhand

    jinxhand Well-Known Member

    Was this posted on other sites (*cough* *cough* SRK)???

    Sega needs to do something like this more often... Crazy outfits, crazy costumes, crazy stages, crazy strats... Where's the next level at Sega?!?!?! Take us there!!!
     
  3. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

    Sega didn't even make that.
     
  4. BrenBed

    BrenBed Active Member

    Akira was nice back in the day but his time has come to an end...It should be Jean Kujo...he owns Akira...end of story...
     
  5. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    140 damage BODYCHECK says hello [​IMG]
     
  6. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Frankly I think Akira works, he just needs a solid rival and make him loud/arrogant. Define his personality against Ryu. Hell he yells constantly anyway.

    You know what I'd REALLY love to see different about Akira? His standing jab reanimated. It's the most flimsy looking punch in the game. Whats the first move that characters will see? Standing jab. Hit jab a few times and see what Lei Fei does, or anyone else for that matter.

    God I love how everyone has to capitalize BODYCHECK. Frankly I think a few more WTF moves like this will win SOooOO many fans. Bring back flipkick damage! Bring back Giant Swing damage! And goddamnit give Jeffry a throw that does old Crucefix piledriver damage! Or at least some slow unblockable pummel of some kind, maybe an insane headbutt....that does less damage against other headbutt heavy characters....
     
  7. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

    Yeah, when you read what Akira is actually shouting he seems like he's more like a sort of anti-hero than anything else.
     
  8. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    Japanese people are shouters when even a little enthusiastic. The fact that he's shouting means nothing.
     
  9. jinxhand

    jinxhand Well-Known Member

    I agree with the reanimated punch... I think his basic moves should be reanimated in that case... That isn't to say that some of those got reanimated (obviously his [2][P] got reanimated)... Maybe more options from standing [P] and [P][P] would help him out too...

    On a sidenote: since Jeffry was mentioned, give him a j/f headbutt, and a throw that does a ginormous amount of damage... /sidenote...

    Has Akira's DLC been reanimated in either R or FS???
     
  10. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

    I agree, Akira needs a [P][P][P][2][K]
     
  11. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    Yup, a lot of his stuff was reanimated for FS. I like it. He's more fluid and looks more like he's doing Kung Fu now.
     
  12. Feck

    Feck Well-Known Member Content Manager Akira

    /me shudders
     
  13. PaulMartinKPG

    PaulMartinKPG Member

    I dunno... I respect Akira as a technical character who is probably really hard to use well, but... he does to tend to come across as a bit generic looking, and yet he's often the only one in any of the adverts or marketing stuff I see on here (literally just him at the top of the screen next to the logo as I post this).

    How about putting the still very complex and Japanese Aoi on the cover of the next one, in a tight martial arts outfit, showing a few curves off? Watch those sales figures clock up!
     
  14. jinxhand

    jinxhand Well-Known Member

    Or just use Jean... Badasses sell!
     
  15. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Akira is a badass, and sells in Japan :p
    Or do you mean flamboyant?
     
  16. jinxhand

    jinxhand Well-Known Member

    I guess... I mean I feel like every successful "main character" who's somewhat stoic has a completely opposite character that is either with or against him. Jin had Mugen in Samurai Champloo... Goku had Vegeta in DBZ. Kenshiro had Raoh (or Rei depending on how you look at it) in HnK. Ryu has Ken. Yang has Yun, Jin Chonsu has Jin Chonrei, Terry has Andy, etc...

    Point is, Akira didn't really have a "marketable equal" until Jean came out. I thought Goh was to be that guy, since he's easier to play, and just as hard to master. Plus he has a few moves like Akira, but they slightly differ, and he's the first real "badguy" in the series... Everybody else was either a friend of Akira, or they had some dumb story that showed they weren't protagonists. Dural, ok she's a "villain" but no one plays her because she's the broken boss character (like EX Rugal). If she were say, like Seth, and playable, that could do 2 things - 1. add a playable bad guy in the series, and 2. add another playable female to the series. As of now, there's only 2 playable antagonists in the game, which is pretty low imo. I mean I'm not necessarily about storylines per sé, but people do like to veer from the light and into the dark in certain things, and when it comes to fighting games, there should be an equal or more options to that... SF has tons of villains to play as.

    Going back to the main thing I was saying though, if Akira is to be even more marketable, he should have an equal, whether good or bad, but that person should have qualities that make him stand out. And in previous posts before, there were others who thought that rivalries between fighting game characters would work and be marketable... Not to give all the credit to this particular game, but SF yet again has rivals. I believe everyone in the SF universe has some sort of rival now... It worked for Soul Calibur 2 most definitely. Why not VF???
     
  17. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Sure I mentioned that before, when you said "Just use Jean." I don't think it would work. It would have to be Jean and (insert name) At the end of the day J6 needs to be fleshed out or they have to emphasize backstories.

    (I'd fine if they scrapped the entire J6 concept and just focused on the characters themselves.)
     
  18. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    Not far enough. They should scrap ALL the stories and just start again. Same characters. And flesh it out, with (skipable) cut scenes, rivalries and opponent specific intros. Stuff like that.
     
  19. jinxhand

    jinxhand Well-Known Member

    You're right, it does take at least Character_A and Character_B for good advertising... I mean from VF2 and up there has been 2 new released characters and they were marketed (with none in 4FT and 1 new/1 returning in 5R). Plus to my knowledge, most of the VF game covers had at least 2 of the characters in it, except for VF2 and 3TB I think... 4 on up had Akira and the whole cast, or Akira and the 2 new characters... Either way, they need to make some sort of correlation between Akira and that "bizarro-Akira" or that "ken-like" opposite... When you think of it, Goh does look like he could be a "bizarro-Akira"...

    I agree, J6 needs some work or just put it under "file 13". I'm pretty sure that if they decided to expand it somewhat (the anime expanded it more than the game, wassup with that) they would grab the attention of story-heads, and those that like J6 in general. This eventually goes back to the whole storyline marketing discussion eons ago... It's not as important as the system itself, but its important enough to make people wanna connect to a character, and put more money in Sega's pocket... The game itself is like a house, and that house needs different points of entry for consumers... Story, game system/accessibility, characters, graphics, music, stages, overall appeal, online capability, and replayability are several doors/windows that should make getting into the game easy...

    Personally, I'm glad they've changed Akira, but at the same time, I'm glad he still has things that make him a challenging character to use... He's not Lei-Fei mashable, but casuals can probably win with him if FS were released and purchased. Don't like Akira, cool, pick up Jean or Goh... Either way, they need to be marketed to truly capture those who ride the fence with this game, or those that just bash the game because they hear others do it, and they're too scared to try it out for themselves unless the game is 8 dollars... Sega needs to drop a demo also - with at least Akira, Goh, Jean, and maybe Eileen as playable characters.
     
  20. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    True, I could come up with something pretty smokin but fuck that they don't pay my bills.
     

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