sega comments on update for VF5 for PS3

thats exactly what i keep saying but people keep calling me out. VF5 probably hasnt sold enough copies to warrant a patch. its not popular enough outside of japan thats why. if PS3 owners in japan asked for a patch there would be a better chance of it happening. you have to understand a good portion of PS3 owners live in japan and if they dont want a patch then chances are we wont get one either.

not only that but sega is a japanese company and they probably cater more to there japanese fanbase. i think sega is making enough money in the arcades though and i dont think japanese PS3 owners really need a patch. since i was the one who posted this im just trying to bash the PS3. this is exactly what ive been posting and you knuckle heads have been trying to give me a hard time.

 

Hopefully when Sega sees how much players pick up VF5 for 360(hopefully a lot of players do) they will consider releasing a patch. The way I see it, atleast one important person in Sega has to have a heart and feel sorry for us PS3 users. That along with some good sales and good online usage for 360 might hopefully let us see a better PS3 version of VF5.

420, you had the same negativity about 360 having an online mode and look how VF5 for 360 has developed. So try to keep the negativity on the low because frankly you're bringing people's moods down.

 

im not trying to be negative im trying to be realistic. i want VF5 on PS3 to get a patch giving it online play and version c. im tired of the 360 always getting the better versions of the same game. to tell you the truth i still dont think VF5 will be able to play the way it should online due to lag. it might be turning out alright but i can guarantee you that no one will be using akira.

i dont want to be playing VF5 online if certain characters will have an advantage due to lag. like i said i just want to play version c. theres not point in playing VF5 online if everyones only going to use the characters that are least affected by the lag. to me its not really VF5 if certain characters are going to be given an advantage due to lag.

it will just become another cheesy unbalanced fighter.

 

This is a prime example of why people pick on you. Why won't people be using Akira? Who will have the advantage? Sure, in general some characters may be a bit more difficult to work with without having the frames work exactly, but realistically, it just lowers the bar for the fighters to work with.

Nobody was mad about what Gokunodan(I dunno how it was spelled) posted because it has speculation that was obviously speculation, plus he only said it ONCE! How many times must you harp on the PS3 sucking, PS3 sucking for lack of games, PS3 having a lack of games, the 360 version looking good(with nothing to add to that, and also making your prior negativity about this version contradictory), or the 360 version being better than the PS3 version.

Aside from the rants you go on when someone calls you on what I said above, what do you have? You don't offer anyone any info! We don't care what you think about it because you keep saying it as though your opinion keeps the thread going. If you truly understand what's being said... just don't respond and hold that post for however long it takes you to get something to say that actually contributes.

EDIT: ALL of the characters will be affected by the lag. How bad can it really be? If abare players can work in tournaments, the discrepancy is frames via lag won't be a HUGE skew across the board. Look at what would be affected: counters, sabaki's(MAYBE), pressure traps, throw escapes, maybe more, but I don't know of one character who would really profit or lose out completely from any of that. If anything, it's a reason someone might spam 66P with Akira all day and get a round or two.

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Besides, every game has lag. I can play Half-Life and be perfectly fine with the fact that I got fragged because my dodge was a frame or two off due to lag. Just don't play online expecting to train for a tournament.

Japan needs online play for the people who want to play different people than the 5-6 people in the arcades, cause I'll tell you, Japanese arcades have some real jerks. In Osaka alone, I see the following:

1. The anti-gaijin noobs who want to pump in 100 yen over and over until they put the gaijin off the machine.

2. The salaryman who thinks whooping a gaijin mercilessly and taunting over and over will heal his pathetic soul.

3. The wannabe VF rockstar who only plays people 10 ranks below him to pump up his record.

4. The protege to the wannabe rockstar, who can't stand losing to people at all, and then calls #3 to the machine.

Granted, if there are dicks like these in person, there have to be even bigger ones online. That's the only thing about online play I'm not looking forward to.

 

your saying that alot of people in japanese arcades are dicks. this coming from someone who told me that hes good at flaming. ever thought maybe your the dick. did i bash the PS3 or are you just trying to justify your purchase? did you even read my last two posts or are you just assuming im bashing the PS3? one last quesion are you still mad that that silver headed gi joe is still stuck in your ass. why dont you just use the baroness to get him out.

i love how you compare half life to VF5 since there both the same game. when VF5 for the 360 comes out and if certain characters dont have an advantage due to lag then you can post it and ill admit im wrong. to bad that wont happen.

 

I don't have a PS3(I have NEVER owned one), and remember, if you actually read my posts, you'd know I have a 360 too, which I bought BECAUSE I heard VF5 was coming to it. Good to know you read two out of the hundred words posted.

You and the GIJoe thing again... you don't want people making stoner jokes but you keep bringing up the GIJoe in the ass thing. Is that your fetish? I mean really? You must have pretty bad weed if that's the best thing you can think up.

EDIT: I didn't throw in an insult on that last post(though I could have), did you notice that? I pointed out what you did and this is how you responded. DO TELL how I'm the asshole in the situation.

You tend to shit up the thread I'm usually interested in reading valid information from. I don't see why so many people should have to somehow mute you rather than someone just ban you from being so idiotic and moving the threads into the same 360 vs PS3 fanboy circlejerk. It doesn't need to happen. We KNOW about the differences between the two and without you reiterating it, we can make progress on things that matter.

PLUS I don't have to make 30 comments to reply to one thing. I know you're still trying to post your way up to pooh-bah or whatever, but it's still stupid. Feel free to send me more stupid re-tellings of the GIJoe up the ass joke, maybe it will be funnier the 371st time.

 

well pretty much because you have to respond negatively to every one of my posts. thats where i got the assumption that your a asshole. i cant make a post without you responding to it. i swear destro you only come on here so you can wait to resond to one of my posts. i like that people in japanese arcades are dicks but im perfectly fine.

 

420 you're the scourge of VFDC. You're also seemingly a glutton for punishment -- who do you think is reading your posts with anything other than icy contempt? Or pity? You're not part of a dialogue here, you've created your own dialogue and then smashed it over the head with a dead bleeding horse.

The only time people respond to you is to call you, in essence, a d-bag. I don't think anyone is mad about you bashing the PS3 (I don't think anyone cares, to be frank) -- the thing is, your posts are mind numbing, repetitive and just generally groan-worthy. I used to think they were funny but now they're absolutely maddening.

I'm finally taking the plunge and blocking the loquacious 420 forever. I look forward to NOT reading your inevitable 8 follow ups to this. I'm sorry for polluting this thread further -- this is the last time I'll be goaded into it.

 

why are you telling me this idiot. just block me already if you want to. obviously you havent yet because either you like responding to my posts or you just like reading them. this guy has to tell me im blocking your posts. like i care. if your going to block my posts just do it. you dont have to tell me.

 

The problem is the fact that you keep derailing the threads from stuff we're trying to read into the stupid system wars argument with nothing new to say. I make my points and you still can't keep up without trying to make some kind of name calling, so really, why bother? I was at least civil before, but you couldn't take that, as usual. It will take a mod or someone to tell you off again and then you'll cry about how new you are and how you don't understand things and somehow that makes you all better.

I got here about the same time you did and the only thing that even makes me feel the need to post is you acting like such a self-important cunthair that you have to keep saying the same crap over again. The only thing you do well is exploit the fact that the mods don't seem to want to ban you. I don't see why 10 people should have to mute you, but we still get to see the chain of info get lost in the shuffle of you spouting your nonsense.

I don't feel like trying to think of names for you or trying to make clever sophomoric barbs for you anymore, because you couldn't keep up before, and you continue to prove that you don't understand what people say to you anyway. You could take the time you spend thinking of that one GIJoe joke you make (which was not the inspiration for my SN in the first place) and actually read what people are saying for a change.

 

everyone, including me should just <span style='font-size: 20pt'>STFU!!1</span>

back on topic damm it!

 

Hey guys I think I'm gonna start investigating pad hacking this gamestop (pelican) game pad to make a sanwa stick. I'll try to post up photos and info when I'm done. They appear to be the cheapest game pad you can get for 360.

Seeing how recent information on the EX2 stick is that it is a severe pain in the ass to mod, this might be the best choice.

Wish me luck! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

The patch will happen. Look forward to it people. Sega won't do it because the specifically want to do it. The will do it because the hand is being forced.

Tekken 5 already online.
Tekken 6 will be online.
DOA Ultimate already online.
DOA 4 already online.
DOA 5 will be online.
Soul Calibur 4 will be online.

If they leave VF5 on PS3 offline. No one will take it seriously. It will be the only major fighter without online play and they will be FORCING people to go to another game if they like fighters. They will be effectively sending their oldest and most loyal and only proven fanbase, Playstation users, to their competition and risking the game in the process.

So the patch will happen I look for it to be announce within a month of the VF5 360 release.

Exactly, If Sega want VF5 to compete they have to do this or else they will lose practically of the people who bought VF5(PS3) to Tekken and Soul Calibur. Remember there are audiences in Japan, Asia and Europe to consider also. Tekken, Soul Calibur, and DOA will be online there also. Moreover they are simpler games, so if Sega allows, for instance, Soul Calibur IV to get to market with online first it would seriously handicap what ever first mover advantage VF has with PS3 users. So look for the patch to happen, sooner than later. If I was a gambling man I would bet on it.

P.S.

No offense 420 but I thought it was a good idea to ignore you before we got into an argument over this. So, were still cool, but I won't be able to read your response.

 

I agree with this. It's just a necessary part of keeping up with competition.

I think if AM2 DOESNT make a patch for the PS3 audience, it will leave them with a bitter taste in their mouths for VF6, and Sega doesn't need to make the potential market for VF any smaller...

Also, referring to the arcades, the arcades aren't all bad, because if you're a newbie, you'll learn how to be effective really quickly against the better players. The bigger issue for me is probably that I can't speak Japanese for crap, but even so, 9 out of 10 times, I deal with the types of players listed before than I get the opportunity to communicate with someone really willing.

(It should be noted that Osaka's more skiddish about foreigners in general than Tokyo, whose arcades I love. I was in Tokyo for less than 15 minutes and I was in a group of gamers in Akihabara kicking some ass. So it's not an all of Japan thing, it's just where I end up playing, so I'd like the option of playing online in Japan, personally)

and Myke - You're my hero!

 

http://www.gamer.nl/doc/41456/Mogelijk-online-multiplayer-voor-PS3-versie-Virtua-Fighter-5

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Translated from Dutch to English:

With the notification of going online from Virtua Fighter 5 through the Xbox 360 reveals that owners of the PS3 version of the game felt lower rated. An interview at Total Videogames with one of the makers of the game hopes that it will probably flare up again. Tohru Murayama, assistant manager of Sega AM2, namely has affirmed that online play by means of a patch to the PS3 version of Virtua Fighter 5 can be brought. TVG: "Is that something that AM2 can solve through means of a patch?" Murayama: "Undoubtedly".

The absence of online in the PS3 version was caused through flaws in time and budget. </div></div>

 

While I’m glad that the topic is being officially addressed by Sega I see their statement as more of a means of saving face than a genuine beacon of hope for PS3 owners.

Yes, theoretically it’s possible but Sega admitted that they lacked the time and the budget to include the 360’s features, so if it wasn’t feasible then what’s changed? VF5 on the PS3 wasn’t an obvious runaway hit that’d warrant post development support, their port was as faithful as it could’ve been at the time of release. While Sega might empathise, I doubt they’re loosing any sleep.

With regards to Sega having to compete with Namco and Tecmo by providing an online feature; they’ve done so, it’s just that it’s featured on only one console port. Yet sure enough, there it is, they’ve reached that benchmark.

Considering that the Japanese market has Ver C on tap via their healthy arcade infrastructure this leaves me with little doubt that Sega would scrounge up the resources for a hardcore, yet niche foreign market on their own.

Personally, I would direct my concerns towards Sony; they’re the ones holding the purse strings and it was their marketing strategy that caused this issue. Perhaps if enough people prod them the situation might change.

 

Just how bad/good did VF5 sell on the PS3? Does anyone here know?

 

Well, for one thing PS3 didn't have any games when VF5 was released, so they probably had a deadline.

I think people have to remember that Sega has to compete with Tekken, SC, and DOA in Japan as well as the USA. So if Namco introduces online play to it fighters in Japan it hurts, VF in Japan. Sega will have to compete in order to keep up. When they do release the patch or VF5:EVO for Japan, we can use that same patch/update in the states and everywhere else. The fact of the matter is competition is going to force them to introduce online play to all of console versions that they sell.

 

I really hope they do implement an online patch for VF5 PS3. Being in the Philippines where Tekken is much more popular than VF, finding VF players is pretty hard.

I don't care if there will be latency issues or what. It would be nice change of pace than playing VF vs the computer all the time.

 

I will vote in the affirmitive. If this does happen and there is an official anouncement someone should post up A.S.A.P.