Politics

Discussion in 'General' started by tonyfamilia, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. Xzyx987X

    Xzyx987X Well-Known Member

    Looks like even Warren Buffett agrees with me. If even rich people want their taxes raised, and the government still won't do it, you know things have gotten pretty fucked up.
     
  2. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    Ah, but that's a rich dude who gives a lot of his money to charity and good causes. Most of them aren't as concerned about those less well off. Making a stick for their own backs though.
     
  3. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    There are ways to keep the rich from hiding their money offshore. The problem is that the rich have bribed the politicians to rig the tax code for their benefit. And they have captured the other regulators who should control predatory financial practices. And they own the media that should actually educate the public about what the top .1% is doing them. We are invariably fucked by an Overclass whose message to the rest of humanity is pretty clear: "Be our Peons or Drop Dead!"
     
  4. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    The only way to end the cycle is education. Which is why it's so disheartening that the masses are so stupid.
     
  5. BlackDragon37

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  6. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

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    Having worked with the public (and their children) for almost a decade now, some of the time (okay, most of the time) you're just wasting your time.

    People need to stop having so many fucking kids. Give economic incentives to childless adults and couples with 1 child, no benefits for 2, tax or recycle families with 3 or more. And if the Catholic church (or any religious institution) gets upset: tax those pricks as well (which is something we should have been doing anyway). If they scream about it, recycle them too. /mostly a joke

    But seriously, politicians need to be telling people to pull out or wear a jimmy-cap. That alone will solve so many of the world's issues. But they won't because they're near-sighted fucks.
     
  7. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Right. The need to survive and replicate makes us near-sighted fucks.

    Love your logic.
     
  8. Happy_Friend

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    The problem is that Ron Paul is anti-Imperialist and anti-bankster. Therefore he is against all the little cliques who own all of our media. They will do everything to hurt his chances because it this class that controls the war machine that goes around the world murdering everyone and it is this class that tries to make the people into peons from which cheap labor is extracted. Owning the world is a dirty business and only the most soulless fucks are allowed to play the game. If you are a threat to their rackets you will be character assassinated or just plain assassinated.
     
  9. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Ron Paul is also a little bit loony.
     
  10. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

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    Um, I didn't say stop all together. Just reduce the population from 7 billion to something to a number where everyone can be taken care of.

    It'll end the cycle of poverty, it'll solve the environmental issues, and more time and energy being put into individual children as opposed to people who have so god damned many.

    He says it better:


    A little? While he is easily the best candidate available on at least the republican side, who needs to run is Bernie Sanders.

     
  11. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Ron Paul predicted the current recession a few years before it happened.

    In front of Congress.
     
  12. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    If Paul gets the nomination and picks a progressive (like Kucinich or Sanders) as his running mate, I think he would have a chance. I read that black people have 90% approval of Obama which is pretty depressing considering that his refusal to fix the economy or launch a jobs program disproportionately hurts black people. What a fucking mess.
     
  13. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

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    And anyone paying attention could have done the same.
     
  14. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Considering he's one of the only politicians in Congress to have done so...
     
  15. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    I'm in Obama's corner all the way. Obama is the ONLY candidate with enough vision and intelligence to maneuver our country out of this funk. There's not a Republican out there who wouldn't make the situation worse.

    The problem is Congress, not Obama.

    Further, this whole "Obama can't do anything right" is nothing more than another slice of dishonest Republican propaganda. Pure garbage. Obama let the Tea Party sink their own boat and the hang-over from the debt ceiling fight has damaged the Republicans image severely, especially the Tea Party. Their approval rating has dropped like a stone.
     
  16. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    So how come not much got done pre-midterm elections, when Obama had a House and Sanate majority?
     
  17. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    Couple of reasons...

    He spent a lot of political capital on the Healthcare overhaul and I think the Democrats may have been overly afraid of overreaching immediately after sweeping into office.

    Look at the Republican Governors who surged into power in 2010. These guys have some of the most severe feelings of "buyer's remorse" in a LONG time. I believe Rick Scott has the worst approval ratings after ~1 year in history.
    Sometimes in politics you have to let the other guy overreach. Sometimes because you don't have the numbers to stop them, and sometimes it's smart politics.

    Scott Walker utterly failed. He brought the Left back together by being the Right-wing kook he is.

    Don't dismiss the idea that 2010 could've been worse if the Dems tried to push through more legislation. The Right-wing has broken this country.
     
  18. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    Obama keeps all his promises
    He's a right winger pretending to be a progressive. Ignore what he says; look at what he does: He appoints the lackeys of high finance who fucked the economy(Geithner, Summers) and the murderous legmen of the war machine (Bob Gates). He actually raises the issue of cutting social security and medicaid during an economic depression and sets about doing it. He uses a UN resolution to create a no-fly zone to undertake a gangsterish regime change war in Libya.

    Partisan loyalty should not be a suicide pact. Many Democrats need to be aware of this. The Republicans are a lost cause of course.
     
  19. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Then America is fucked, as they don't have a 3rd political party to vote for.

    I suspect that's the biggest problem with US politics. It forces the two-party political system into a black-and-white system with no shades of grey being allowed.
     
  20. Xzyx987X

    Xzyx987X Well-Known Member

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