Politics

I dunno what you mean by turning your back on them. He's put forward tons of money toward researching how to help cure/treat/manage the signature wounds of the two wars which are mild traumatic brain injuries and PTSD. That's kinda one of the things I work on in RL, so I don't really know what you mean by turning his back. He's putting money into the research so that we can treat these veterans.

. . . I see that as taking care of the Vets, so I don't really get the anger at him for this.

The troops are mobilized because, well, the war isn't over lol. Sry if the media wants people to think things are hunky doory over there, but they really aren't.

 

Tricky, you should really watch this
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Now, I'm not saying that I agree 100% with everything here but both Obama and Hillary had a secret meeting with the Bilderberg group. You can see this in part 3 of this.
The reality is that there is a well-oiled machine that keeps pushing us to war and it is not about the "safety" of our country. Financial gain is their primary and most important goal.

Even if there were no Muslim extremists left, this country would find some other way/reason to go to war.

 

Webster Tarpley is someone I thought was out there before, but seeing Obama waffle ineffectually makes me take him more seriously. He is right about JFK and possibly about central banks as the lynchpin of the Corporatocracy. The Alex Jones New World Order stuff is likely overdone. Talking about the Illuminati makes a person seem silly.

The Kennedy assassination really was the pivotal event of the Post-War world. The Oliver Stone movie JFK is actually one of the most important movies ever made. And contrary to what the Establishment media said about it, it is very accurate, much more so than any government investigation into the crime. "Back and to the Left" alone exonerates Oswald as the lone shooter and points to a massive cover-up that was instigated immediately.

Once a person realizes the truth of that event and the cover-up and what it all entails, suddenly so much comes into focus: Vietnam, the RFK and MLK assassinations, Iran-Contra-Cocaine-BCCI-October Surprise, the Iraq War...

As I wrote earlier, the world is ruled by robber baron gangsters.

I would love for Obama to do a 180 and prove me wrong, but I don't think that will happen. More likely, his administration represents one more victory for Global Reamocracy.

 

The war will be over when we leave. there is no reason for us to be there.

WHat I was referring to was the way Obama turned his back on the people that got him elected. No healthcare public option, further entrenchment in Iraq (end of combat is pure hype) and Afghanistan, no prosecution of Bush War Crimes, no scaling back the PATRIOT Act Fascist shit, No breaking up the Media trusts, No New New Deal, No card check legislation, no Khalid Sheik Muhammed trial, no negotiations with Iran, no National security whistleblower protection, no curtailing the use of mercenaries in our wars, no removal of the cap on Social Security/FICA taxes on earnings...

And how fucked up is it that the Administration says that it can order the assassination of American citizens?

 

Health Care reform was passed. It is likely an improvement over the current fucked up system, but it is a stupid bill that creates a system that no one would have designed from a utilitarian perspective. It contains enormous chunks of corporate welfare designed to ensure the survival of the parasitic health insurance corporations who, if they could, would let any of us die rather provide us the medical care that we pay for.

It probably sounds strange to anyone living in a civilized country. To understand it, one would have to understand the depths of American political stupidity. This ignorance is most perfectly personified by the "Teabaggers" who are mobilized by corporate interests yet themselves believe that they are populist defenders of freedom.

Teabaggin' 4 Jesus = The American Way!

 

Yes, the Teabaggers call Obama a socialist in spite of the fact that he's BFF with all the Goldman-Sachs Wall Street assholes. As I said earlier, if we could find a way to produce cars that run on American political stupidity, there would be no energy crisis.

Yes they say he's Muslim too, but they also attack his Christian pastor. They say he was born in Kenya also.

We have religious freedom but we also have been made to hate Muslims because of 9/11 and because there so many Muslims in the Middle East who are sitting on our oil and who do not like America's BFF Israel.

The Health Care thing had to be tweaked in a bunch of different ways. It supposedly disallowed the practice of companies dropping people for preexisting conditions, but it did not provide a public alternative to the for profit insurance companies which was what was most obviously needed.

The Teabaggers protested and fought hard to protect the right of the insurance companies to ream them.

 

I don't understand the damn teabaggers

they are basically hyper paniced poor people, who are being manipulated by Fox news into doing actions that HURT them.

its absolutely ridiculous and makes no sense. Not to mention most are republican, a party that has the rich's interests at heart, not the unwealthy poor religious people.

Nvm I do understand the teabaggers. They are just stupid. Its that simple. Stupid people easily manipulated by rich republicans into screwing themselves over.

Also these are the same people that don't realize how religious freedom is almost the definition of america and its freedom. Seperation of the church and state is probably THE MOST IMPORTANT DAMN THING in the bill of rights, its one of the TOP REASONS AMERICA WAS EVER CREATED. Yet these chrislosers think they own the country, and that they have a right to be treated better than everyone else.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/opinion/12friedman.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=general also great article on why america sucks now. The new generation is a bunch of selfish people who try to get something from nothing. You know what happens when everyones like that? Everyone screws each other over and we find out all our products are garbage and the nation is founded on empty lies used to make a buck, and bam the economy collapses.

 

Sounds to me like you understand them better than you thought haha.

 

I personally don't think we can blame the young. They have inherited a culture that they had no role in shaping. I personally blame the assholes on Wall Street more. That made trillions of dollars doing absolutely not shit. They just sold their fictitious bullshit back and forth to each other till their whole ponzi game collapsed and then we bailed them out.

They better change their ways or they could end up like Louis XVI.

We are a crumbling empire...

 

I can understand Obama giving a bailout to our companies, but why banks? They don't manufacture anything. They only move money around. They are not held accountable for that money and the government isn't getting it back. I heard that our banks even gave some of that money to foreign banks.

 

nothing is too big to fail.

 

The banking sector held this country hostage and got a big payout as a result. Now there's talk of another housing crisis a-brewin'. If we need to save their asses again, then Obama's administration will be tanked.

I feel the same way about banks -- they merely shift numbers around. China and other developing countries make most of our goods, so once our service sector starts falling apart, we'll end up dragging everyone else into the pit with us.

 

well I didn't mean THAT young I meant like, the last generation that is working wall street now adays, the ones after WW2/cold war etc. and Ya i meant basically what you said. The whole trading nothing, just for a buck, and now we have the economy is collapsing cause it was based on that nothing. empty lies etc.

I also find america's lack of discipline crazy. Kids in school are getting lazier and lazier, they aren't interested in learning they BRAG about bad grades its just silly when many asian and other countries are the exact oppisite, everyones a workaholic, its pretty much standard to barely sleep, go to school for the whole day and be studying the whole day.
People immigrate to america sometimes JUST because the schools are so much easier.

How does america plan to be a global power when the people in it are doing significantly less work and studying than other countries. Even the lower classes in asian countries work hella more hours for less pay how are is your company gonna compete with that?

 

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer

 

The Koch Bros are evil... Frank Rich wrote about them here:

Frank Rich Piece

"You can draw a straight line from the Liberty League’s crusade against the New Deal “socialism” of Social Security, the Securities and Exchange Commission and child labor laws to the John Birch Society-Barry Goldwater assault on J.F.K. and Medicare to the Koch-Murdoch-backed juggernaut against our “socialist” president."

These are the fuckers who have been trying to kill everything good or fair in America since FDR. They are the reasons for much of our woes and I daresay that they were behind the murders of the Kennedy brothers.

America has a class of ruling elites who are really the puppetmasters of the political actors we see on tv.