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Pai: Final Tuned

Discussion in 'Pai' started by Myke, Aug 29, 2004.

  1. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Does anybody know the frame stats for pai's change move which gives her a different [P][P] move?
     
  2. Chausin

    Chausin Active Member

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    archangel said:

    Does anybody know the frame stats for pai's change move which gives her a different [P][P] move?

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    from the guard book(not version A):
    (g,nh,lc,mc,hc) <-are these notations correct?
    boukatai P (1,3,5,5,5)
    boukatai PP (-10,4,8,8,8)
     
  3. BK__

    BK__ Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    (g,nh,lc,mc,hc)

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    guard, normal hit, minor counter, yellow counter, red counter..

    right? k thnx
     
  4. Llanfair

    Llanfair Well-Known Member

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    BK__ said:

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    (g,nh,lc,mc,hc)

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    guard, normal hit, minor counter, yellow counter, red counter..

    right? k thnx

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    uh, almost, but not quite.

    Guard - Normal Hit - Light Counter - Medium Counter - Heavy Counter

    *minor* counters, traditionally notated as 'mC' online, are hits to an opponent who has just had a move blocked or missed - ie, hits on an opponent who is in a recovering state - they not listed in master guide.

    Light Counters are yellow,
    Medium Counters are orange actually,
    and Heavy Counters are red and the screen shakes a bit.

    <font color="yellow">.cheers.</font>
     
  5. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Does pais [2][4][P]+[K] float on counter hit now?
     
  6. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Does pais [2][4][P]+[K] float on counter hit now?

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    If you mean her (while standing) [P]+[K], then yes, it floats on heavy counter only.

    Questions like these are easily answered in Pai's FT ver.A command list /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
  7. noodalls

    noodalls Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    Pai Combo Maniacs
    Orange Mook
    Text - Yanaga
    Translation - Noodalls

    [2_][6][P] counter hit or [K] or [1][P] or [3][P][P][6][P] or Bokutai [P]+[K]
    1. [6_][P] [2][6][P] [6][6][P][K]
    2. [6_][P] [3][3][6][P] [9][K][K]
    3. [4][6][K] [6][6][P][K]
    4. [6_][P] [6_][P] [6][6][P][K]
    5. [6_][P] [2][P] [6][6][P][K]
    6. [6_][P] [6][6][P][K]
    7. [2][P] [6][6][P][K]
    8. [6][6][P][K]
    9. [6_][P] WS[P]+[K] [P][P][K][K]

    Off her main juggle starter [2_][6][P], against light weight in either stance 9 will give the most damage. For middle weights, use 1 when in open stance and 2 when in closed stance as the basics. Actually, even in closed stance 1 will connect fairly easily against mid-weights less than Kage. 3 will connect on light and middle weights except Lion, and does about the same damage as 1 and 2, so when you can't confirm your foot stance or when you want to go for okizeme in closed stance, use this. Use 4 against heavy weights. From [1][P], the basics are to use 1 in closed stance and 2 in open stance against light weights. 1 will land on vanessa easily irrespetive of foot stance. Against Kage, Goh, Brad and (Lei in closed stance) go for combo 4. Against Jacky and (Akira and Lau in closed stance) combo 6. For open stance up to Akira size, use 7, and 8 for other cases.
    Used mainly as a countering move, [K] combos are easier to connect if in open stance. 1 works on Pai, 4 on light weights and Goh and 5 for Kage and Brad. Use 8 on the other characters, but 6 is relatively easy to connect on jacky. In closed stance, 7 will work on light weights except Aoi, and 8 will work on the rest of the characters.

    WS[P]+[K] counter hit or BT [7][K]
    10. BT[P][P] [6][6][P][K]
    11. BT[P][P][K][K]

    When BT[7][K] connects or WS[P]+[K] connects on heavy counter, you can go for backturned combos. 11 is the combo that works on all characters. For 10, it's the combo you use when you float them slightly higher and against light and mid weights in open stance. It does slightly more damage than 11.

    [4][6][P]+[K] (full charge) or [4][P] counter hit
    12. [3][3][6][P] [6][6][P][K]
    13. [K][P][K]
    14. [6][6][P][K]
    15. [2][P] [6][6][P][K]

    You can go for various combos from a stomach crumple. After [4][6][P]+[K](fully charged) you can go for 12 on all characters for best damage. From [4][P] go for 13 on characters up to wolf. Delay the [K] slightly after the stomach crumple to get all the hits. 15 depends on refloating the opponent, so you have to delay the [2][P] slightly. 14 works on all opponents.

    [6][K]+[G]
    16. [6_][P] [6][6][P][K]
    17. [6][6][P][K]
    18. [4][6][K][K]
    19. [9][K][K]

    After [6][K]+[G] the opponent can tech-roll, but the timing is tough so you can go for a combo. 15 (?) is the high damage combo, and connects in closed stance, but sometimes the [P] will whiff depending on hit conditions. 16 works regardless of foot stance.
    17 is a slam combo. It won't work against some middle weight characters in open stance so be careful. Also, against Lion in closed stance the above combo won't work at all, so use 18. [6][6][K]+[G] can be techrolled, but you can try to combo with it.

    [6][6][K]+[G]
    20. BT[P][P][K][K]
    21. BT[K]
    22. BT[P]+[K]
    23. BT[2][P][P][6][P]

    20 works from closed stance against all characters. But, sometimes depending on distance it won't connect. 21 connects from either stance. 22 works from open stance. The damage is less that 21, but there is less risk if they tech-roll. 23 is for open stance on Aoi.

    [6][6][P]+[K]
    24. [6][6][P][K]
    25. [4][6][K][K]
    26. [2][P] [6][6][P][K]
    27. Bokutai [P][P]

    After the foot crumple of [6][6][P]+[K], 24 is the basic combo to go for. 25 and 26 don't work unless you wait a little and the timing is quite difficult. 25 is easier to connect in closed stance. 27 is a combo you can go for in open stance, for when you shift into bokutai. This one too needs a little bit of delay for it to hit. The timing is a little strict.

    /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
    WS is while standing, BT is backturned, Bokutai is bokutai (see later.)
    Again, this one was a little difficult to translate. The paragraphing seemed a little off, and it seems that the section about 15 was plain wrong. It states that the standing [P] will miss, but there's no standing [P] in the combo. Not sure what that bit refers to really.

    Also, they used the wrong character for bokutai (and I know the character for bokutai because Lei Fei has that stance, and I'm used to reading it). So I made up my own stance name while I was doing the translations, thinking all the while that Pai had recieved a new stance in FT that I hadn't noticed. Then I checked it and worked it out.

    Anyway, enjoy.
     
  8. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info Noodalls
     
  9. maddy

    maddy Well-Known Member

    Hi, Noodal. Much appreciate all your translation work for us. You rock.
     

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