Pad Players Realm

If you are going to play in international tournaments I would proably suggest learning a stick, but as far as US tourny's go playing SC GGX2 and VF on a pad is fine. You just better be good at it so you can show those people who snicker in the background when you whip it out. The pad that is.

 

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You just better be good at it so you can show those people who snicker in the background when you whip it out. The pad that is.

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Snicker? You wouldn't hear the end of it!
Seriously though, if you're here at this site you should know you're playing the best fightinggame on the planet earth by far (and that you'll be playing it and it's series for a long time forward) - how many people have bought a stick / went back to using pad as compared to the other way around? There's nothing cool with someone practicing their life away learning how to do a DLC on a pad when someone on a stick can do it 50times faster... it's just sad really. Now, all of this is imo and I'm sorry if I hurt someones feeling but what I'm basicly trying to say is:






Get over it you cheap fucks and buy that stick already god damn it!!!






/KiwE (Haven't seen a pad in an arcade yet to this day).

 

Lol stick players can be so overzealous ! Yo KiwE, tell me how do you do a DLC ''50 times'' faster on a stick ? You know what some of you stick advocates need to do ?

Get together and form a club or something, or a gang : Da Stick Bloods, Da Stick Clicq, no no no better yet Da Stick Dicks Lol. And the only way to become a member is to get a... you guessed it, a stick. But not only that, you'd also have to DLC till you bust three nuts in your pants and knee 20 times in a row whether you're a Yuki player or not. And once you're a Stick Dick the only way out is in a coffin or with both of your thumbs missing so you can't go back to pad.

PS. To all you sensitive Stick Dicks out there : *just fucking around you know me.*

 

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KiwE said:
Get over it you cheap fucks and buy that stick already god damn it!!!

/KiwE (Haven't seen a pad in an arcade yet to this day).

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How nice from you! Not all want to carry thei enormous sticks to anyones personal property... Pad with all buttons on use rock HARD!!! Scrwe that Akira' s knee anyway! /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

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KiwE said:

Snicker? You wouldn't hear the end of it!

There's nothing cool with someone practicing their life away learning how to do a DLC on a pad when someone on a stick can do it 50 times faster... it's just sad really.

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Now I always respect peoples oponions, but as I've said before, there are pad players out there who are pretty damn decent, and when a pad player is really good he is taken just as (if not more) seriously as any stick player. If people snicker or 'won't let you hear the end of it' tell them to get on the game and play.

When it comes down to it, stick and pad players have equal potential to play VF. The only problem with a pad is the learning curve for some moves is a little more difficult. Fuck, if I was worried about a learning curve I wouldn't be playing Virtua Fighter in the first place, now would I?

PS : Oh yeah I do own a stick and have practiced for a while to become profficient at it with Akira I still love my pad more. Check the sig /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

so u got urself another joystick...and ur actually using it?? well since you've got yourself another stick and all....mind sending my controller back to me? remember overnight shipping to the philippines alright? k thx
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NANI!!!

I don't have your stick do I?

/hide

 

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KiwE said:
There's nothing cool with someone practicing their life away learning how to do a DLC on a pad when someone on a stick can do it 50times faster... it's just sad really.

Get over it you cheap fucks and buy that stick already god damn it!!!

/KiwE (Haven't seen a pad in an arcade yet to this day).

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I can do DLC with a pad pretty consistently (pretty) and different configs can remedy many problems. The only thing stick is essential for besides arcades is that you can fuck yourself with it more naturally.

 

It's not equal.

Pad players will never be able to play the best VF players in the world on a level playing field.

That's because the best VF players play with sticks, and Japanese arcade sticks specifically.

That's all that it really comes down to.

 

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ice-9 said:

It's not equal.

Pad players will never be able to play the best VF players in the world on a level playing field.

That's because the best VF players play with sticks, and Japanese arcade sticks specifically.

That's all that it really comes down to.

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I have to agree with ice-9 on this one since my creditability comes from using both.

 

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ice-9 said:

It's not equal.

Pad players will never be able to play the best VF players in the world on a level playing field.

That's because the best VF players play with sticks, and Japanese arcade sticks specifically.

That's all that it really comes down to.

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This is needless bickering that I did not want on this forum, though it I did expect it. I just need you to clear up what you mean before I start ignoring these type post all together. "Level playing field?" The arcade is a level playing field and the Ps2 is not? I'm sure most of the people who play VF in the states or in Japan own a PS2 with the game if they are really compitent in it. Are you saying the PS2 isn't a level playing field and that a pad player no matter how good can't compete with a stick user? I truly find this hard to believe. The only difference between a stick and a pad is the difference in the way you must input moves. Thats all! There are no restrictions to either of the moves. Its all about player skill.

I agree when people say you might not get to play a lot of the great people who play in arcades if you were to say, visit Japan, because you don't know anyone there except maybe the people who visit the boards. But for most of us states people that play casually or even hardcore, going to Japan might be out of range or even not wanted.

I advocte the use of sticks, but this forum is simply to help people who like to use a pad. I truly do love to use a pad, and I do believe that I would do very well if I were a tournament today.

Finally, just to be clear if its not already, I disagree with your opinion that all "it really comes down to" is the type of controller you use. True most of the best (if not even all the best) players use sticks. Well most of the best players in the world are also japanese / korean. Does that mean if you are not of japanese or korean dissent you cannot be the best in VF? I surely hope not, because if so I'm switching to Soul Calibur, or maybe Pocket Fighter.

 

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Vith_Dos said:

I agree when people say you might not get to play a lot of the great people who play in arcades if you were to say, visit Japan, because you don't know anyone there except maybe the people who visit the boards. But for most of us states people that play casually or even hardcore, going to Japan might be out of range or even not wanted.



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Well, there are people who will go to Japan in March. Not just the U.S players but players from Singapole and the U.K as well. What they use will be really important when they go to an arcade, won't it?

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As one of those VF players who had used a standard pad for about 8 months before switching to stick, here's my 2 cents for you.

I don't think anything in VF is imposible on pad. If people put enough effort into it, you will be able to pull off anything you want. But, there is clearly a difference in difficulty depending on what you play on.

If you practiced hard and can pull off DLC, EDTEG or whatever consistently on pad finally, the chances are if you used a stick, you'd have to spend much less time on mastering the technique.

I believe that that's the reason why majority of good players are stick users because they can improve faster with the same amount of efforts than ones who play on pad.

If you don't agree on my statement that playing as good on pad as stick players requires more efforts, I'd respect your point. But, I've seen many players who made a leap in their playing level after switching to stick including myself, and I think it's more obvious when you use Akira.

P.S. I heard you showcased a decent Akira in NYC. Feel free to contact me when you want to have some Akira discussion with me. /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

-maddy-

 

Actually, what it really comes down to is this....

On the PS2, as long as you brought your own stick or pad, you're good to go. Level playing field.

In the arcade, unless you are proficient on a stick, you better hope there's a way to plug your pad in.

But like maddy said, you can do pretty much whatever on anything, good or bad pad or stick. I've seen people do everything on whatever. So it's not really whether you use a pad or stick, it really just comes down to what is the more widely used option. You have to agree that a stick is more commonly used worldwide for fighting games.

 

srider and maddy, you both hit it on the dot. good job. Now back to pad discussion. Does any of you guys use a ps1 or ps1 dual shock to play evo? Just wondering what you guys think of the tighter digital pad or do you prefer the looser ones on the ps2?

 

I personally prefer the DS2 feel to the other ones but all in all the differences aren't that flagrant to me. I can play with any of them but I usually stick to one main pad and it's a DS2. In Tekken it seems like the just frames come out more consistently when using a PS1 pad but I think that's all in the head.

 

I agree with Srider and Maddy 100%. Especially about Akira being easier to learn on a stick, and I still don't think that if you play on a pad you should be discouraged from playing vf competitively. Thats about all I have on that subject.

Just on a side note Maddy, I visit up to Ohio an awful lot these days so next time I'm up there I wanna get a couple (hundred) matches against the Ohio crew to show yall some paddy goodness hehe. /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Stomp a womp : Yeah I don't have 2 dual shocks at my house so whenever I play fighting games with my friends I usually use my old ps1 pads. I actually find the lightweightness and general feel of the regular ps1 controller to be a little more comfortable to the slightly bulky (though finely tuned) ps2 dual shock. I'm still looking for some other cool pads to invest in (as well as another cheapy stick to replace my pelican weeeeee /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif) . If anyone has some links or picks of cool pads you've seen out there please post or PM me.

 

Good points you have. I bet there are not too many of us who can do triple-evading-throwEscape guard with a DS2. Or FOUR throw escapes, even with some success with DS2. Unless player is a demon, there is no way he´s gonna get through all challenge modes in Evo...

 

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Srider said:

Actually, what it really comes down to is this....

On the PS2, as long as you brought your own stick or pad, you're good to go. Level playing field.

In the arcade, unless you are proficient on a stick, ""you better hope there's a way to plug your pad in"".

But like maddy said, you can do pretty much whatever on anything, good or bad pad or stick. I've seen people do everything on whatever. So it's not really whether you use a pad or stick, it really just comes down to what is the more widely used option. You have to agree that a stick is more commonly used worldwide for fighting games.

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does that go for U.S. arcades or japanese ones???

 

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Neonomide said:

Good points you have. I bet there are not too many of us who can do triple-evading-throwEscape guard with a DS2. Or FOUR throw escapes, even with some success with DS2. Unless player is a demon, there is no way he´s gonna get through all challenge modes in Evo...

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dunno about that, but a funny thing i did after i couldn't stagger recover quickly enough from akira's + in the challenge mode, was:
i taped the button down on my pad., so that was out of the way and made things a lot easier. then just mashed the hell out of , , and the directional button /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif. seriously, can you hold , and repeatedly tap , , and all the directional buttons on a pad. (unless you have spider legs for fingers /versus/images/graemlins/smirk.gif)

 

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Neonomide said:

Good points you have. I bet there are not too many of us who can do triple-evading-throwEscape guard with a DS2. Or FOUR throw escapes, even with some success with DS2. Unless player is a demon, there is no way he´s gonna get through all challenge modes in Evo...

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Me and Ryadus have passed it with all characters(althought I didnt do Lion) by using DS2. And Ryadus can do four throw escapes whenever he wants(I cant, thus I had to work harder on that), I was there when he did the Throw escape exersices.
I´ll show proof when we meet someday, it´s all in my memorycards.
Of all the staggers(not Brad counted), Akiras throw was definitely easiest, too easy to be last one. It should´ve been in Laus place...
But exact recovery challenge was the most difficult, and took most time. It was extremely irritating to perform e-recovery 4 times and then fail /versus/images/graemlins/mad.gif /versus/images/graemlins/mad.gif.

I wouldnt call myself a demon, even thought I passed the exercises, I cant do all that during real matches...

Now, who would seriously want Jeffrys wallpaper if they could review it?