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Neko Dojo's 2AFC Approach

Discussion in 'News' started by akai, Sep 16, 2013.

By akai on Sep 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM

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For those seeking to learn and improve on their VF play, there are many good resources already available. For example, video tutorials and the VFDC Wiki. However, textbook-like resources that allow people to follow chapters sequentially for effective understanding is sorely lacking. The Neko Dojo team, the makers of Virtua Wrecker 5 Final Showdown and many other videos showcasing very damaging setups, presents their textbook-like resource 2AFC Approach (see below for Table of Contents).

The goal of 2AFC Approach (Two-Alternative Forced Choice or what VFers might know as "nitaku") is to make players think of most situations as a choice between 2 actions. However, the overall message the Neko Dojo team wants to impart to beginners and intermediate players are:

Academi-ya said:

“Of course we should be able to do actions based on frames, but this is not all. The extremely exceptional measures (throw from disadvantage, delayed actions, guarding at large advantage, etc.) are required to vanquish the opponent's choices that depend on highly advanced techniques.” - Fuudo, a top VF player

All that he says is perfectly correct. However, the most important message would be “we should be able to do actions based on frames.” However, it seems likely that many intermediate players haven't achieved the essential things. If a player would neglect 2AFC based on classical techniques, he could not make himself steady against intermediate while he might sometimes win against senior players accidentally. We have to maintain a proper balance between development and conservation.

Furthermore, the top player tends to treat basic 2AFC more preferentially than exceptional measures. We had better to rises to 1 Star–Assassin (Chisho in japanese) using only two choice offense (直二択). I think that 2AFC skills obtained during this sequence will help us to proceed to the next step.
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The 2AFC Approach is an ongoing work. It is unique for having both a Japanese and English text version. Not only is it a beneficial resource to new players, but it also contain valuable information for experienced players. What I like about 2AFC Approach is that it builds on preexisting resources with additional information. So check out Neko Dojo's 2AFC Approach! I will update the Table of Contents below as more blog entries are posted.

2AFC Table of Contents
(last updated June 20, 2015)
2AFC Approach: Preface

How to Reduce Input Lag (English / 日本語)

General Properties of Attacks (English / 日本語)

Attack Analysis (English / 日本語)

Advantage and Disadvantage (English / 日本語)

Top Tips for Command Input

Part 1 (English / 日本語)

Part 2 (English / 日本語)

Part 3 (English / 日本語)

Part 4 (English / 日本語)

Attack Levels

Part 1 (English / 日本語)

Part 2 (English / 日本語)

Part 3 (English / 日本語)

Part 4 (English / 日本語)

Training 1 (English / 日本語)

General Strategy: Collision Detection (English / 日本語)

General Properties of Foot Stance (English / 日本語)

General Properties of Throw

Part 1 (English / 日本語)

Part 2 (English / 日本語)

Fuzzy Guarding

Part 1 (English / 日本語)

Part 2 (English / 日本語)

Part 3 (English / 日本語)

Catch Throws and Guard Breaks

Part 1 (English / 日本語)

Part 2 (English / 日本語)

Part 3 (English / 日本語)

Part 4 (English / 日本語)

Part 5 (English / 日本語)

High Throws at Large Advantage

Part 1 (English / 日本語)

Part 2 (English / 日本語)

Part 3 (English / 日本語)

Part 4 (English / 日本語)

About the Neko Dojo Team
The Neko Dojo team is composed of Hokkaido VFers: Academi-ya who writes majority of the text and manages their blog and Nachi Nozawa who edits majority of the videos. In addition, KEN KEN sometime helps with the making of the videos. Neko Dojo was originally created by Academi-ya in 2003 for Virtua Fighter 3 to 5. In 2010, he created the current blog for Final Showdown. Due to increasing workload, Academi-ya took less of the center stage on the blog's contents. However, seeing a lack of a textbook-like resource available, and that the success of that resource would require a seasoned player with knowledge of the VF system, he decided to write the 2AFC Approach.
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1. akai
  
  Updated first post with General Properties of Throw Part 1 (English / 日本語)
  
  akai, Jun 6, 2015
  
  #41
  
  Modelah, academi-ya, G0d3L and 5 others like this.
2. academi-ya
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  　The 2nd chapter of Strategy 2 , General Properties of Throws 1, has been posted on Neko-Dojo.
  
  The most important message in this chapter is that:
  　The knowledge of High Throws is one of essential way to be sure of effective use of them if you have enough advantage in frames.
  
  Dear Akai.
  　I apologize deeply for the delay in posting articles because of severe illness requiring prolonged hospitalization. I hope that you will understand this situation.
  
  Last edited: Jul 20, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 6, 2015
  
  #42
  
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3. jimi Claymore
  
  too bad to hear that, i hope you're better now
  
  jimi Claymore, Jun 6, 2015
  
  #43
  
  academi-ya and Riskbreak like this.
4. akai
  
  academi-ya said: ↑
  
  Dear Akai.
  　I apologize deeply for the delay in posting articles because of severe illness requiring prolonged hospitalization. I hope that you will understand this situation.
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  No need to apologize, we all have personal matters that are definitely more important than our hobby . Glad yo hear from you and appreciate your work.
  
  akai, Jun 7, 2015
  
  #44
  
  academi-ya, Tricky, Parasite_eveNZ and 1 other person like this.
5. Unicorn
  
  @akai youre alive!
  
  Unicorn, Jun 7, 2015
  
  #45
  
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6. Tricky
  
  academi-ya said: ↑
  
  Dear Akai.
  　I apologize deeply for the delay in posting articles because of severe illness requiring prolonged hospitalization. I hope that you will understand this situation.
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  I'm glad you are better, I missed you man! I was wondering what might've happened.
  
  Tricky, Jun 7, 2015
  
  #46
  
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7. academi-ya
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  　The 3rd chapter of Strategy 2 , General Properties of Throws 2, has been posted on Neko-Dojo.
  
  Thanks,
  academi-ya
  
  Last edited: Jul 20, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 8, 2015
  
  #47
  
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8. Tricky
  
  yes! By the way, I'm doing a video series where I'm translating/showing/talking through your strategy pages and showing the techniques on youtube.
  
  Tricky, Jun 9, 2015
  
  #48
  
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9. academi-ya
  
  Tricky said: ↑
  
  yes! By the way, I'm doing a video series where I'm translating/showing/talking through your strategy pages and showing the techniques on youtube.
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  Dear Tricky,
  
  　I have the deepest respect for your work of video series on youtube. We put a link from our blog to your video with all my feelings of gratitude. I hope that you will find an improvement in the article.
  　
  　http://blog.livedoor.jp/dora_nekoaki/archives/1512830.html
  
  Thanks,
  academi-ya
  
  Last edited: Jun 9, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 9, 2015
  
  #49
  
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10. academi-ya
  
  Chapter 10-1 was reviced:
  
  From
  　You have to awaken an important concept of 1-Frame Delay mentioned in chapter 5－3.[10] In this scenario, probably, Player 1 entered 32_3 with 1-Frame Delay, then Player 2's High Throw connected before the start up of Shajoushou 32_3P.
  
  To
  　You already know that 1-Frame Delay would be unavoidable in the case of performing Shajoushou 32_3P under standing state, while Junho Chushou 33P that can be performed without any waste of extra frames (chapter 5－3).[10] In this scenario, internal processing for imaginary crouching state requires the extra 1 frame. Therefore, Player 2's High Throw connected before the start up of Shajoushou 32_3P.
  
  academi-ya, Jun 9, 2015
  
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11. academi-ya
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  　The 4th chapter of Strategy 2, Fuzzy Guarding 1, has been posted on Neko-Dojo. An excellent application of two methods for crouching is the subject of this chapter.
  
  The most important message in this chapter is that:
  　The rule of Fuzzy Guarding has been simplified in Final Showdown, so you had better confirm the system once again.
  
  Thanks,
  academi-ya
  
  Last edited: Jul 20, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 10, 2015
  
  #51
  
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12. academi-ya
  
  Hi everyone,
  　Chapter 11-1 (Fuzzy Guarding 1) was reviced: To consider the point in more depth, we has added Diagrams 1－3 and Supporting Information 2. I hope that you will find an improvement in the revised article.
  
  Thanks,
  academi-ya
  
  academi-ya, Jun 10, 2015
  
  #52
  
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13. academi-ya
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  　The 5th chapter of Strategy 2, Fuzzy Guarding 2, has been posted on Neko-Dojo.
  
  The most important message in this chapter is that:
  　in any situations, we had better elect the most effective technique to vanquish opponent's defensive techniques.
  
  P.S.
  　I hope that you will find citations of VFDC Forums related to Fuzzy Guarding.
  
  Thanks,
  academi-ya
  
  Last edited: Jul 20, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 13, 2015
  
  #53
  
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14. Unicorn
  
  Wow @academi-ya , new stuf comming out so fast! Thank you for this!
  
  Anyway doubt anyone will mind you are using VFDC quotes - we all love the same game and we all wanna make it fluorish and not die (in hands of oh-look-how-we-not-care Sega )
  
  Unicorn, Jun 13, 2015
  
  #54
15. academi-ya
  
  Unicorn said: ↑
  
  Wow @academi-ya , new stuf comming out so fast! Thank you for this!
  
  Anyway doubt anyone will mind you are using VFDC quotes - we all love the same game and we all wanna make it fluorish and not die (in hands of oh-look-how-we-not-care Sega )
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  Dear Unicorn,
  　We would like to express our sincere gratitude for your encouragement.
  
  with best regards,
  academi-ya
  
  Last edited: Jul 25, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 17, 2015
  
  #55
16. academi-ya
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  　The 6th chapter of Strategy 2, Fuzzy Guarding 3, has been posted on Neko-Dojo.
  
  The key note is that:
  　in Final Showdown, the skill of counting the proper timing will help you.
  
  Thanks,
  academi-ya
  
  Last edited: Jul 20, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 19, 2015
  
  #56
  
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17. Myke
  
  I have updated the table of contents in the original post to include the latest Fuzzy Guarding entries from neko dojo. Thanks @academi-ya!
  
  Myke, Jun 20, 2015
  
  #57
  
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18. academi-ya
  
  Myke said: ↑
  
  I have updated the table of contents in the original post to include the latest Fuzzy Guarding entries from neko dojo. Thanks @academi-ya!
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  Hi Myke,
  　I’m so pleased you have made update of contents despite being extremely busy. I have no words with which to express my gratitude.
  
  Thanks,
  academi-ya
  
  Last edited: Jul 25, 2015
  
  academi-ya, Jun 20, 2015
  
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19. academi-ya
  
  　We have to let you know that we made serious mistakes in Chapter 11. I apologize for the mistake in the information that we provided you. To correct mistakes, we revised articles as follows.
  
  　Chapter 11-1: Diagram 11－1, 2 and 3 have been replaced.
  
  　Chapter 11-2: Diagram 11－4 has been replaced.
  
  　Chapter 11-3: Diagram 11－5 and 6 has been replaced.
  　New URL, Fuzzy Guarding 3 (English)
  　http://blog.livedoor.jp/dora_nekoaki/archives/2043766.html
  　New URL, ファジーガード 3 (日本語)
  　http://blog.livedoor.jp/dora_nekoaki/archives/1517890.html
  
  academi-ya
  
  academi-ya, Jun 21, 2015
  
  #59
  
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20. Myke
  
  The URLs for Fuzzy Guarding Part 3 have been updated in the original post.
  
  Myke, Jun 21, 2015
  
  #60
  
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