Lei-Fei and Vanessa on LIVE

Akira has spin kicks? since when?

edit: Lei mashers are easy to beat by evading.
And Vanessa by low punch and high crush moves. Learn to duck Vanessa K+G. To learn how to play against a character a good way is to learn that character yourself.

ALthough I admit that mashers take the joy out of the game sometimes /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

^I don't think so... I get to practice really big side turned combos thanks to them /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Also, don't know if this works online but it's EXTREMELY easy to get an OM /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif crumple when you evade a string. Like super easy.

Most strings if blocked they extremely punishable except for the case of Lei Fei and Vanessa, in their case you need to evade or duck the high they are still punishable and if people spam them you need to adapt and murder them.

 

I'm not disputing the fact that other characters can't destroy you just as easily in the right hands. I'm saying that Vanessa and Lei-Fei often do it in the wrong hands as well.

I'd like to see these online Vanessa/Lei abusers do the kinds of combos you or I can do with Akira and Wolf...

 

Not really. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

I don't hate anyone, just play-styles, namely Dustin's and Plague's after 50 matches . So far, everyone I've played/met is a cool person... except BRISAL!!!! (UH-OH, UH-OH!)

Those Sarah V. Vanessa/Goh/Wolf/Jeffry matches kicked ass.

What the fuck are you going on about?

Vanessa's Strengths:

DS
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif has the longest range of any true-low kick (almost the range of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is the best side-kick in the game
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is an awesome way to stuff opponents, punish 9-11i and set up /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, nothing else.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is an okay combo starter; it's -5i, half-circ, leads to 70-75-81 damage combo on all characters regardless of stance, but it hits high.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif is her mid "knee," but only does damage if you have nice setups afterwards.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is really good.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is really good, but at 15i, needs more frames for setting it up.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is great, but not to be over used as a good player (i.e. Renzo), will duck and punish it if you misuse it.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is too good, and I can say, broken. Kills almost everything in the game.
From /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif moves are okay... but not that good.

DS is really good, but lack of "safe" combo starters (/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif doesn't count as it is high) really hinders her damage. And everything she has, Pai as a version, and even better stuff (/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif WTF-NESS).

If /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif works, that means the person you're playing against is a fucking retard.

OS:
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (string)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
Intruder step
Otherwise, OS has nothing else. The strings only work until the opponent knows they can just duck and rape you, for free. OS is a great way to defeat abare opponents and is better for punishing, other-wise, it is a very underwhelming stance.

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Learn about the characters, the system, and don't post misinformation.

 

They don't.

 

I think in Version C OS is actually quite stronger, while DS is a bit weaker.

 

You just hate my /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

 

ws /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
everything in BT
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and everything from it (advantage on block, unsabaki-able mid combo starter, delay/staggering kick, sweep, and a FUCKING CATCH THROW?!?! EILEEN = PAI)
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (half-circ sabaki for the biggest bulldog in the game?!)
And /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif; ducks under Jeffery's many mids.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>
SEGA; learn to make a consistent system= Mids hit crouched opponents.</span>

Fuck Eileen (and Lei-Fei, Shun, Pai, Kage {wtf})

Learn a legit character so I don't have to pretend to dislike you on the internets!

 

VF3beatsVF4 Did you come across a vane player called bluem4gic?

 

I somewhat concur with Sebo regarding /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, I don't even understand how that things goes under elbows but I just accept it does.

Oh wells, Kage /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif FTW!

 

I care if the match was fun, if you don't you might as well stop playing - winning isn't the only thing to focus on, if you thought that you'd be satisfied fighting shit players and hitting /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif against them all day.

If you believe a viable tactic in a fighting game is initiating the 'same move over and over' to test if your opponent can beat it; remind me to never play you...

I'm more inclined to agree with Leonard_McCoy who said "it's not about winning but about perfection..."


I also think it might be a good idea to have a section on how to beat other characters, so people can learn counters against character specifics, as one user posted.

 

Wow some of you sort of makes me wish there wasn't an online version. . . hopefully some of you get over the 'every thing I can't beat is broken' stage.

 

Well if people are spamming strings there are like.... many many many many WAYs to kill them. It's their fault if they don't want to adapt to you pwning them. If you don't like playing him then don't. Find someone that you think is fun to play with and find them.

 

Wow... I thought it was just at DOA Central. You are the EPITOME of a scrub.

 

I read the first two lines... that was enough. Tekken Community is clearly the more advanced community, and it shows that maybe either there are too few VF players in the US, so they are eager to hold onto any scrub that comes walking in without setting him straight, or all the good players are really only in Japan, so there was nobody around to crucify you for the straight idiotic post you started with.

I guess I could just be nicer... but no real point. This guy said it as nice as it needs to be said:

 

You sure as hell won't like playing Japanese/smart players.

 

It comes down to either: do what you can to win, even if it's not 'fun' when someone is being stupid, or play the way that is fun to you but accept the bumps you hit a long the road.

 

come on guys, hardcore posturing aside, he's making a valid point.

i coach tennis now and then at my local club....and there's this one guy who i'd consider average ability..nothing special. now whenever new members arrive and are learning to volly at the net he will constantly drive the balls at them full pelt with heavy topspin so they miss their shots.

a few of us have told his to calm down and give the new players easier balls so they can learn but he insists on slamming the balls as he feels that's how they should learn.

now, this guy may indeed have a point...perhaps the new players should learn to adapt to his howitzer shots. but the moral of the story is...the guy's basically a complete arsehole and people now go out of their way to avoid interacting or playing him.

i sort of feel the same about vf players who abuse the same moves over and over in social matchplay. that's no way to help someone improve their game or foster a friendly gathering. just because something works is no reason to employ it continually. vf is a game after all....if it were to be widely played at such a primitive level it may as well have three move per character.

 

How is it a valid point if you fall for the same tactic over and over? If you do, how are you gonna learn anything unless you hit a brick wall a few times?

 

Just look up some stats....

Theyre are many ways to deal with string abuser's I dont even know why there is a thread on this...

learn to play the game people.