Kage's FT Dragon Punch Combo Trainer

Discussion in 'VF.TV' started by Myke, Nov 8, 2004.

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  1. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    i browse in firefox, but i did it in ie..
     
    vanity, Nov 10, 2004
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  2. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    I mentioned this to some on IRC but forgot to relay it here. I already have messages being output to the console (you just can't see them now) telling you what frame your input failed at. What I'm working on right now is the following:

    - a bemani-style graphical meter to show you how to time your presses (toggle on/off).
    - a slow-mo feature, kinda like ps2 training mode (currently having problems with this though since the video can playback slowly but the audio still plays at normal speed).
    - a show-me feature where it can play the entire track once so you know what it looks like in full (helpful for first time users I guess)
    - and just for fun, a score which tracks how many times you complete it successfully, and highest win streak! (my record is 5 straight so far)

    I'm learning different features of flash as I go, so don't hold your breath on all of these features making it through.

    Also, I'd be interested to hear if the trainer actually helps anyone's real game.
     
    Myke, Nov 10, 2004
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  3. Siyko

    Siyko Well-Known Member

    high schore list!!

    5 in a row mutha truckas

    i think a little bar that shows u how close ur inputs are would be bad.... seems like you'd be looking at that rather than kage. Not sure how easy it is to amke it togglable and whatnot... o well

    very nice stuff myke
     
    Siyko, Nov 10, 2004
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  4. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Siyko, I know what you mean. There's a bit of negative training involved when you include too much help. Like you said, the player would get too used to it. Practicing it the way it is now is pretty much how you would practice it in the arcade -- good old fashioned trial and error.

    But still, a little bit of help can't hurt too much. Maybe I'll only allow the scoring feature when all help aids are turned off.
     
    Myke, Nov 10, 2004
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  5. KiwE

    KiwE Well-Known Member

    Audioclue would be the best addition imo. Beeps that show you the correct tempo for everything that's played when you fail to do the combo which you try to copy.

    /KiwE
     
    KiwE, Nov 11, 2004
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  6. SG-Lion

    SG-Lion Well-Known Member

    Hi Myke,

    Just would like to say thank you for taking the efforts and time to develop the 'Virtua Training' /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

    Thank you /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

    Sg-Lion
    Singapore
     
    SG-Lion, Nov 11, 2004
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  7. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    New update. There's now a status box describing your failed inputs:

    - Too Early (x frames)
    - Too Late
     
    Myke, Nov 11, 2004
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  8. vanity

    vanity Well-Known Member

    Great idea, but it's extremely disheartening 5 times in a row to get "too early - 1 frame" on the last hit.
     
    vanity, Nov 11, 2004
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  9. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    vanity, well at least you know why you're failing.

    Anyway, another minor update: changed the first DP input to P+K (i.e. J+K)
     
    Myke, Nov 12, 2004
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  10. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Great change--I was actually pressing J+K for the first DP before to keep it as real as possible. Would you consider making another slight modification? Instead of "R" to restart, what about "N" or a key in reach of your right hand?

    The reason is that when I take boring phone calls, eat a sandwich, etc. with my left hand I like to hishoukyaku with my right hand, and needing to reach across to R makes it slightly cumbersome.
     
    ice-9, Nov 12, 2004
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  11. nin

    nin Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    ice-9 said:

    Great change--I was actually pressing J+K for the first DP before to keep it as real as possible. Would you consider making another slight modification? Instead of "R" to restart, what about "N" or a key in reach of your right hand?

    The reason is that when I take boring phone calls, eat a sandwich, etc. with my left hand I like to hishoukyaku with my right hand, and needing to reach across to R makes it slightly cumbersome.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    agree!!
     
    nin, Nov 12, 2004
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  12. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Yeah, good idea. OK I've changed the Restart key to "I".

    Anyway, just had a night of FTing, and my accuracy on the 4th hit has definitely improved. The training has, at the very least, made me more comfortable with the timing.
     
    Myke, Nov 12, 2004
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  13. Renzo

    Renzo Well-Known Member

    Nice work Myke!!

    Sorry to be a pain, but do you know if there's a link/possibility to save the flash movie? I'm on 56K still and it's going to be a pain to wait 20-30 mins to load the combo trainer /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif
     
    Renzo, Nov 13, 2004
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  14. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Myke, Nov 13, 2004
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  15. supergolden

    supergolden Well-Known Member Content Mgr El Blaze

    Hey Myke,

    Thanks for the updates, they are great! The early/late feedback definitely helps... I'm getting really good at making it through the trainer, but still having problems in the arcade... I'll let you know if I make any further improvements...

    -Alex
     
    supergolden, Nov 13, 2004
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  16. Renzo

    Renzo Well-Known Member

    Please have my kids, Myke /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
     
    Renzo, Nov 13, 2004
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  17. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Another update.

    Astute readers would have noticed that on the site 1/60sec, there are two possible input timings depending on when you enter the first [P]. The window for the first [P] is 4 frames, and if you enter it on the last (4th) frame, then the remaining inputs need to be delayed by 1 frame.

    I had originally programmed it based on the non-delay timing, that is, the first [P] only had a window of 3 frames. But, now the first input window is 4 frames and the timing of the rest of the combo will vary accordingly.

    Supergolden: good luck!
    Renzo: I'm flattered /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
     
    Myke, Nov 13, 2004
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  18. Llanfair

    Llanfair Well-Known Member

    As it odd as it might sound, I have to say that completing the DPC in the arcade is significantly easier than using Myke's trainer. I'm sure why this is the case, but I can get the whole combo decently enough during matches but I have never had more than 2 hits using the trainer. Completing 3 hits in the arcade, there's more than a couple of us at 95%+ in the arcade. Go figure :p

    <font color="yellow">.cheers.</font>
     
    Llanfair, Nov 13, 2004
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  19. vf4akira

    vf4akira Well-Known Member

    Whoa, the trainer really does work!

    I practiced for a little while on the trainer last week, but it wasn't until the weekend I got to try it out in the arcade. To my surprise, I was hitting the combo almost everytime!

    For me, it seems easier to pull it off in the arcade than on my keyboard at home. No big deal though. Before the trainer, I would have trouble getting the last hit in, but now I usually mess up going from the 2nd to 3rd hit. However, if I get the 3rd hit in, the 4th almost always comes out.

    Thanks again for the cool app Myke!
     
    vf4akira, Nov 21, 2004
    #39
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