Kages Combo

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BMF said:

d/f+P(open,everyone) ---> ff ---> d+P ---> knee...is much nicer

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In closed stance you can do to finish the combo.

 

Here is some combos may help:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Denei/4148/evocombo.html

I find that is a pretty site for all Kage stuff!

 

hmm, i just realized that ~ ~ + ~ + does more damage than all the rest... ~ ~ ~ is medium difficulty and it's even less damage than the simple ~ ~ +. i think i'll just stick with ~ ~ + ~ +

 

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eXtReMeLONER said:

hmm, i just realized that ~ ~ + ~ + does more damage than all the rest... ~ ~ ~ is medium difficulty and it's even less damage than the simple ~ ~ +. i think i'll just stick with ~ ~ + ~ +

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On a counter hit you can do - - + which takes 64 pts of damage.

 

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eXtReMeLONER said:

hmm, i just realized that ~ ~ + ~ + does more damage than all the rest... ~ ~ ~ is medium difficulty and it's even less damage than the simple ~ ~ +. i think i'll just stick with ~ ~ + ~ +

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Allright, so what do you do on Akira, Wolf and Jeff? On them d/f+P > P > d+P+K > DP won't hit even on counter, and Jacky requires a counter hit d/f+P for it to work. You also said that it does less damage than the "simple" d/f+P > P >u/b+K+G...but the thing is that that combo works on a closed stance d/f+P hit while the d/f+P > ff > d+P > knee works in an open stance d/f+P hit. So as far as I can tell it is the best damage you can get on Akira, Wolf, and Jeff in open stance.

 

dood i think ~ ~ + works in open stance, i tried it just now. i think the reason your + is whiffing is because you aren't holding the before the . and also, on counter hit ~ ~ + ~ + can connect on Akira.

 

ohhh nice, which people will ~ ~ + NOT work on? Jacky to Jeff?

 

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eXtReMeLONER said:

dood i think ~ ~ + works in open stance, i tried it just now. i think the reason your + is whiffing is because you aren't holding the before the . and also, on counter hit ~ ~ + ~ + can connect on Akira.

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You're right about the kickflip combo...I just assumed that Jacky's and Kage's kickflips only hit in open stance. d/f+P > P >d+P+K > DP ONLY works on counter hit AND max range d/f+P hit on Akira...meaning it's not worth trying.

 

so, to wrap up the series for kage in simple words: ~ ~ + ~ + for anyone under jacky. and ~ ~ ~ + for jacky and above (that's the easiest and safest good damage combo if you don't look for foot positions, if you watch for foot positions you can do ~ ~ + in closed stance)
or you can try a more challenging combo ~ ~ ~

now onto other business: (counter hit) i personally cannot land (backturned) on anyone over the ladies... well i did it on lau and lion a few times but i couldn't get it consistently. /versus/images/graemlins/mad.gif am i doing something wrong? anyway, for the female characters, (counter hit)~ ~ + ~ + lands a good 76 damages. if that's a little confusing, try ~ ~ + for 72 damages. or, ~ ~ + for 69 damages (all are pretty flashy combos) COULD I PLEASE GET SOME ADVICE ON HOW TO LAND THE BACKTURNED ON HEAVIER CHARACTERS? I'VE SEEN KYASAO'S VIDEO AND HE DID IT ON OHSU AKIRA, SO I KNOW IT'S DOABLE. alright i gotta go for now, more later.

 

... no one responded. but that's ok i figured it out, the backturned will only hit after (counter hit)in open foot position. (for any guy, will work on the girls in either position)

 

question: under what circumstances will + ~ ~ + connect? i've done it a few times in open stance but i can't get it consistently. is there a demand in frames/timing here or what? (not near wall)

 

Uhh... I just landed ~ ~ + on Jeffrey, is that even possible???

 

I don't think this can be connected!
How do you do that!
special + combo for jeff
is +,+
normal feet!
normal hit 50
counter hit 65

 

You can do +, +, + against Jeff.
Not sure if it's stance specific or not.

 

don't think +, can be connected, if opp does tech roll!

 

when do you guys use ?

 

soms i use for follow up! this move is also a good back turn move!
after it hit use + or +!

combos
of after , +, , => looks nice!
beter use big down attacks more damage or +!

 

ohhh thanks, I never thought of following back turned + with +...

 

...Or dash forward and use +. I personally use this, leaves you backturned again /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

 

can +,+ connected after that? i mean after ,+,!
Sorry about to asked that!
Because i can't try it now!