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Re: dodglets

Return the stick to neutral after those d/f's?

-sa

 

Re: dodglets

nope, you don't have to (if you see me do a dodgelet, I'm just bouncing between d and d/f while hitting E in timing with the d and d/f's /images/icons/smile.gif

 

Re: dodglets

you can't cancel E's in the way that you can cancel walking/running/dashing with anything except a CD. if i do E, ub+K+G, i have to wait for the E to finish. if i do E, b+P+G, i have to wait for the E to finish. if i do E, G, i can't guard anything till the E is over.


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"Plop."

 

Re: dodglets

13th frame is the earliest time you can cancel E with a move.

For example, input a dodge and elbow in immediate sequence, you gotta wait 13 frames for elbow to come out after the dodge. So there are AT LEAST 13 frames of window where you can be thrown of the dodge. This, however, still has much better recovery time than the E by itself (how soon E by itself recovers, I forgot).

And no, one cannot cancel E with another E. Exceptions are those special dodges that the likes of Lion and Shun have. But they're probably considered as a move (rather than dodge) by the game engine.

I wonder if Clopin meant by the weird dodglets Aoi has. Wasn't it something like: (hold) d/f, E,E,E,E,E,E.....?

 

Re: dodglets

Oh well...I see that Myke got to the point before I did. With a picture too!

 

Re: dodglets

so when can i expect the additions/corrections to the big list of vf formula and stats i directed you to?

 

Re: dodglets

ah..i knew that. yes i did. mmhmm.

actually thanks to a translation by glc, i've got full stats on E'ing in vf3...

13 frames execution time, recovery time depends on character:
jeff & wolf: 19 frames
taka: 17 frames
all other characters: 15 frames

(is this correct, shota?)

 

Re: dodglets

so when can i expect the additions/corrections to the big list of vf formula and stats i directed you to?

Shiiiit.....

If you can tell, I'm writing this message at midnight in my office. THEN I'm required to go drinking with my clients in about 30 mins....

Imagine having this every single f*cking day in the month of December.

Excuses, excuses...yes, I know that. But 15-hr work day and all these required alcohol are killing me...at least until it hits January.

 

Re: dodglets

i think aoi's dodglets was D/F+g,g,g,g,g........

not 100% sure tho


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Re: dodglets

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The "technique" is called rowing. It's not a dodglet (I'm beginning to hate this word), and is practically useless IMO, but I'd like to
see clopin argue otherwise All you see is Aoi twitch, while crouched, in the df direction.

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rowing, HA! you VOOM bitch!

*grumble* and i take back what i said about dodglet. i meant df+e,df+e,... and infinitum. so i guess that would be a e-cd where the cd recovery is cancelled into another e- i guess. not to say it can't be done, but i've never seen anyone low-thrown out of a "dodglet", ever.

BUT, i'd argue "rowing" does have some limited uses, just because i like arguing with my bitch from down-under, m y k e. just like "dodglet" has limited uses. the main advantage "rowing" has is that you remain crouching as you move forward. you use it similar to a cd situation. it's a variation, and it because ppl don't see it often, some opponents don't respond to it as quickly as a cd. typical usage for me is after a e-cd, tag along the rowing to move up further ahead without being exposed to a high throw. you can move pretty quickly, too, as long as you have the proper "rowing" rhythm. e-cd to rowing also is used in specific oki situtaions, notably after cd-throw.


// clopin
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