Jeffry Combos help

Combos for CH have been uploaded. There are a number of redundant combos and I'm debating if I should post all of the ones I tested (like 40 different ones, lol)

A few notes for future investigation for 100% verification (but will likely get forgotten because I'm moving onto other things first):
Delay in open for these Characters: AO(?), VA, GO(?) there are most likely others
Delay in closed for JN(?)
Don't do for Pai (stance?) especially before doing +
Do for Lau

Also Updated + combos

And , and .

 

Just in case someone wants to double check there are now 17 new combos in the section, including the beginning of some experimentation on > + on opponents that don't tech (i.e. situational/gimmicky).

Update:
Threat PP combos finished and news flash: more headbutt bounds!

 

+ (wall) [highly situational shit] and combos completed. Feel free to test and improve upon my findings.

 

Last update for the next 2 weeks, + combos, it will also need some edits on the older combos as they clearly do not work (namely dash Threat PP ones one heavier characters).

 

Made a few stealth edits in November, but added new and combos today. Lots more coming in the future.

 

Big update on combos, which is now a section that is larger than all the Aoi/Sarah combos (seriously, it's been 7 years, get to work) because is probably the most complicated launcher (series) in the game. "New" max damage combos (stuff I found in 2011), and lots of redundant combos, but found some cool shit that you never see JP Jeffs do because no one plays him.

I think I'm turning Jeff's combos into a stockpile of most everything that's possible, and if we're alive in the upcoming months, I'll either slim it down or write specific guides on the WIKI.

Edit: Added ST CH section because it ought to be there.

Another edit: and ST CH because it's not posted anywhere and it's a really good gamble.

 

Random updates (combos vs ST) and fixes, added a huge number of combos for vs crouch (something happened to my notes on vs crouch ), add the much needed and ancient <wall hit> wall combos/ (and the relatively newer) bound combos. (seriously, the utility of never disappoints)

Also updated the Wiki for the movelists (just the notes and section, but lots of new tech that hasn't been posted and rarely if never displayed in replays).

Oh and the section.

 

Tons of random updates, including a number of max(?) damage combos for //HCF.

Next updates will definitely be wall slumps (2-3 kinds: long distance and similar, and next to the wall , Threat K probably falls into both depending on range), Threat , and various Nonbos (OTG combos, Stagger > "launch"), and maybe mid air interrupts into combos.

So everything else is done, lemme know if you find anything wrong in my findings or something better.

 

You are killing it, dude! I have one that is really situational Jacko and I saw in a JP video and were working on separately. Threat , Threat , ender. We saw Chibitarou do it on Lei Fei CPU, I remember getting it to work once or twice but I can't remember if crouch dash is supposed to come out for a frame before the .

I'm going to try out some of the stuff you have been adding on, although I've been using some of those without knowing how to submit for wiki. Thanks again for all the work!

 

Oh shit, that's sounds like a pain (but fun to do).

Also I've been updating the wiki bit by bit, so if there are other findings or corrections on those things let me know too.

 

Thread's old but I figure this can be shared here:

On the note of , its quirky stagger "launch" is quite handy for post-wall staggers versus Taka. It's one frame faster than the usual splat (or wall hit), and nets the same combo (for example, , , , , ) but does 5 more damage.

With other characters, you'd usually be doing , instead (give or take a before/after the headbutt), so it's less optimal--especially against Eileen/Blaze/Shun, who are too tiny to get hit properly (for them, you'd have to do , for mediocre damage). Taka is uniquely vulnerable is this regard; the combo is oriented around size, not weight.

In conclusion, can be good after wall-staggering since it's one frame faster than usual starters, making for ever-so-slightly more leniency on starting a wall combo, and it's a win-win versus Taka!

EDIT:
This throw's stagger can become lenient enough that the "Taka-only" follow-up to works on anyone. But it's very distance dependent, so it's risky to try on people smaller than Wolf.
On the other hand, a fairly practical route for works here: transition to Threat with your ender of choice. It can do more than (depending on whether you can tag on extra jabs pre/post-headbutt).

Overall, there's a niche for both 15f post-staggers:
means more damage from the front versus Taka and from with exact spacing (for all but Taka, who's more vulnerable).

, means more damage from if you're not in position for 's optimal route, or if your opponent takes less damage from the headbutt combo.

 

To separate this post from the wall business above:

Another useful option versus Taka is after ; the combo list doesn't suggest , which is slightly stronger than or (and worked with any footing in my tests). It loses the damage potential of or beat-down trickery of , but it's easy and doesn't require any reactions.