I miss Vanessa's old look.....

Discussion in 'General' started by Red_Dragon_Haze, Nov 17, 2007.

  1. Vortigar

    Vortigar Well-Known Member

    ViperExcess:
    Except for that grunt in the ps3 intro movie you mean? ^_^
    Jeffry couldn't conjure something like that out of his gut.


    I'm also not a fan of Vane's redesign (I love the counter-sexy/not-overtly-sexy female designs in games), her thighs are still bulky as some have noted, but those wee arms seem incapable of the massive slugging she can deliver (DS/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif ala 'Mighty' Mo with those arms?). And her becoming lighter seemed weird to me. Then again, I booted up VF4E two weeks ago again and was a bit weirded out by her look just the same, it seems to me I idealized it a bit over time and am wondering if others aren't doing the same. She needed a redesign, but not this drastic.

    As for Eileen not having sex-appeal: she's based on a Japanese anime standard that's considered sexy/appealing by many, not the big boobs/long hair appeal but rather the young/bouncy/happy thing.
     
  2. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    dude I'm totally elitist about my fighting games don't get me started. Through the years vf had just stayed above such things and I was proud of it for staying true to it's roots. It just makes me a little sad that it gave in to objectifying women. At least before the women were kinda wearing clothes that a real fighter would wear. Now (i'm thinking of one of pai's and sarah's outfits) it's not quite the same. It's alright that they did it, I understand why, doesn't mean I liked it. It also makes it harder for girls to pick these type of games up when they see girls dressed like that too. It gets them all huffy.
     
  3. RedSonRising

    RedSonRising Well-Known Member

    hmm.. i like Vanessa's 'new' look.. i havent played the prior versions but i have seen pics and vids of them.. the look is much more 'mainstream' and a hell of a lot more flexible..
     
  4. Fulan

    Fulan Well-Known Member

    Thank you! It's probably not for the same reasons but I agree with you.
     
  5. ZeroEx

    ZeroEx Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Zeextremekid
    XBL:
    Zeextremekid
    I think this topic is funny.
    What's wrong with making girls look good?
    I mean if my sister were to play this game, she'd love the customization and the cute items you can add to your character.
     
  6. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

    XBL:
    erdraug
    I think there was another thread about vane's VF5 looks; i'd like to remind you that these changes are supposed to be justified in the story ( /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif ) by her being kidnapped and brainwashed-trained-cloned-whatever. Yet i still i have conflicting feelings about this, so I'm waiting for Zerochan to reply.

    One thing is sure, i preferred her old voice /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
     
  7. CiscoRey

    CiscoRey Well-Known Member

    I haven't noticed much change in her appearance. She's still the same ol' bulky-back, big-calf, Black woman I remember from VF4evo. She reminds me of my chick, just with a larger, manlier body.
     
  8. cadorna

    cadorna Well-Known Member

    I like her new body and looks much better, as well as her new voice. In 4EVO I felt I was using a transvestite character or a dyke, now she's definitely a good looking girl. I like her skin tone better now too, I don't think she has to be black. She has a tanned skin item you can unlock to make her look like VF4 though.

    Girls have to look as hot as they can in a game --that is without falling into a DoA-style thing.
     
  9. Gallows_AGUT

    Gallows_AGUT Well-Known Member

    VF4 Evo taught me that steroids on a woman were bad. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

    Really, she looks more like a spy type character. Still able to mete out the damage, but when it calls for it, to move faster than sin. Think of her now as a black Jane Bond.

    From a marketing standpoint we should have expected this. They needed to make her more palatable to the Japanese gamers, which play VF more than American gamers. And her more feminine but dangerous appearance fits for attracting the new gamers.

    However I don't see how the change to a more sexy style should push the female gamers away when they have something to go for more than just beating their opponets to the ground with the customization and all that. Of course, a female gamer that's not interested in the fighter genre period isn't likely to get excited even if they objectified all the men into Chippendales dancers.
     
  10. MiLLa_G0RiLLa

    MiLLa_G0RiLLa New Member

    Nah, I think the new Vanessa is great. I mean she's a woman she deserves a feminine and at the same time tough look. I think it worked out perfectly.
     
  11. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    I'm kinda happy about the changes they made, because EVO Vane's look was boring. Her voice is the only problem I have with her...
     
  12. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

    XBL:
    erdraug
    Bah, who cares as long as the tropical suntan item is there, now that i found it and gave her the gatling gun and assult rifle she's back to being <s>the amazon goddess i came to adore</s> her old black panther self.
     
  13. Krit

    Krit Active Member

    Before.. She looked like a big, greasy, transvestite.
    In my opinion.
     
  14. Zero-chan

    Zero-chan Well-Known Member

    this topic needs less beating a dead horse and more Vanessa pictures
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  15. GMcfosho

    GMcfosho Member

    nobody played vanessa when she looked like a dude. except me. now everybody wants her.
     
  16. Krit

    Krit Active Member

    So true. xD
     
  17. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

    PSN:
    Sebopants
    Your drawing? If so, um, what is the context? lol
     
  18. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

    XBL:
    erdraug
    I bet it's the same context as in that promotional video for item-specific endings where she has a rifle and does the roll - while wearing hotpants and stockings /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

    [​IMG]
     
  19. CiscoRey

    CiscoRey Well-Known Member

    Have you guys noticed the increased sex-appeal in Eileen's new costumes? If I'm not mistaking, they have her wearing stockings and a skirt.

    I'm currently using Eileen while she wears sandals, yellow shorts and a pony tail. It's about the sexiest I could get her. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
     
  20. DubC

    DubC Well-Known Member



    It's nice to have elitism from your series (speaking from AM2's perspective)... until it starts losing you money at the bank - console sales, and arcade sales to the tekken series (as much as you'd like to deny it, VF is NOT played everywhere in Japan to the extent people say it is... at least not between June and August, when I was there - seemed mainly played in Tokyo and only in Club Sega arcades.

    Believe it or not, DOA is the fighter MOST played by females. I don't get it myself, but online there are a ton of girls playing DOA. I think they actually LIKE it when girls are pretty and feminine looking, because that is what they want to look like themselves.
     

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