How to release VF5R on console.. my idea

Next Year People!
Next Year....

I don't think they want to release a console version of R yet, because:

- R is pretty new, no version A (I know this one just came out, but it's not like it changed much of the game at all, it's just added content) ,B or C etc has been released yet.

- Other fighters are coming out early next Year, so this year would be too early to release a details or plans for a console version of 5:R.

- Sega, aren't concerned about console versions right now because 5 didn't sell many copies on both PS3 and 360, and maybe they don't think it'll make sense to release another VF console version until say VF6 or a version after R.

- Sega are probably watching the competition first, and will make decisions for a console release based on how well... say Street Fighter 4, SC4 etc sell.

Also, making a downloadable expansion wouldn't be possible because:

- First of all, both PS3 and Xbox 360 wouldn't be able to be patched for that. And although the so called 360 had DLC it was already on the disc, so that doesn't count. They'd have to remake the game to be able to support such a feature.

- If it was possible - That expansion would be huge. VF5 is 4.9GB on HDD, VF5R has totally redone stages, engine tweaks for the game to run faster, new graphics and animations, lots of items (not that those take up a lot of space), 2 completely new characters and additional music. It'd maybe be 1GB or so, not that anyone has a problem with that.

But then, Sega wouldn't be making much monies anyways, cause they'd just be catering to the existing user base and not getting more consumers.


Anyways, my personal opinion is, 5R can wait.

Next year would be the best time to announce a console version, since games like Tatsunonko vs Capcom, Street Fighter 4, BlazBlue, Tekken 6:BR and King of Fighter 12 will be out on console the market.

People still haven't completely mastered VF5 version C yet, and people want a newer version already.

If you can't wait, then play other games, learn new characters, create competitions in the mean time. Don't focus on what you can't have, otherwise you're just gonna be disappointed, just like how people were like "OMG Final Tuned!!!!!! Must Play on Console.......!"

And guess what, EVO was good enough, and because people were looking at FT so much, the got burned when there wasn't a console version.

Be satisfied with what you have now, and hope for the best. That's what I'm doing. And even tho I want VF5R as much as everybody else, I can live without it, cause I still think there are a ton of stuff I have yet to properly master in VF5.

 

Don't forget UFC2009, and Fight Night Round 4 will also be released next year /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

Games that don't require deep thought have always been more popular than games that do.

 

Just got to point out that this part isn't true. Only reason that it wouldn't be patchable is if R run on a completly different engine.

 

I see you have reading down but not comprehension.
I hate to be a dick but how can you take what I said as:
"Duh, we don't deserve VF5R because we haven't mastered VF5 yet. Don't bring it Sega, we're not worthyyyyy!"
???
Seriously.
No, that's now what I said. What I said WAS "enjoy what you have and don't worry about what you have no control over".

This is a BUSINESS. To keep investing money into console versions, Sega needs to make money off the last console versions released.
Sega isn't Microsoft or Sony who can afford to keep trudging on regardless of financial losses.
Sega's "stock" now is games, they simply can't afford to keep making risky investments with limited resources.

Nintendo has Mario and $Pokemon$.
Microsoft has a crapload of software/hardware.
Sony has, well, everything, lol.
Sega has... Sonic =/

So while VF5R this Christmas would be great, let's be realistic, it ain't happening.
As Dr Phil would say: "People, it's time to get real." /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

Well VF:R's engine is a heavily modified version of The VF5 engine, and was optimized to take full advantage of the Lindbergh system. They also new animation tools and reworked some of the animations for characters.

So yeah, it'd be impossible to release R as any form of expansion, it'd have to be a new game altogether.

 

Yes, which is why sonic the hedgehog has a thousand-year old tradition, hundreds of thousands of players serious enough to join organizations dedicated to the game, and televised professional competitions, whereas go and chess do not.

 

If the engine hasn't been modified on the hardware end then it's patchable, for serious.

 

Organised competitive chess started at 16th century, and chess has millions of players today.

 

That's exactly what KoD just said I think /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

 

thats not true. Animation changes have nothing to do with not being able to update the original game. In the arcade, most of what pushes the hardware even more is some of the new hi-res items and from what i've heard, they eat alot of ram. Hypothetically, it can be updated and the hi res items can be replaced with simpler models and texture maps.

 

So I heard the gaming industry is widest selling media in present day.
example: Grand Theft Auto IV sales

And both you and me know that I meant video games, but for some reason you have to be an ass about it, and you were wrong to top it off. If chess was more popular than video games then you would see more money invested in chess than the gaming industry, but what do I know I just reason with logic.

 

I'm not a christian, but I believe in do unto others as they have done unto you. Next time you respond to one of my points with something that's blatantly false, don't be surprised if i point out the problems in your reasoning.

You said "have always been more popular." If that was the case, clearly chutes and ladders would have destroyed chess & go once it was invented, but are there competitive chutes and ladders players? No. If you want to talk videogames only, come back when sonic the hedgehog or GTAIV players are nationally known celebrities making over 100k a year like starcraft players.

 

Gerald just spill it already and tell us YAY or NAY. I think you know, but I understand to protect your sources you have to play the clueless roll. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif I still love you man and am very glad to have met you. BUT I SWEAR I'M GONNA COME TO CALI AND BREAK YOUR CABINET IF YOU DON'T STOP HOLDING OUT ON ME! Phew got that off my chest!

Love you LA!

 

Haha, I love ya too rod! Unfortunately the last piece of info I got from my "source" (and yes it's a good source somewhere within japan, somewhere within sega) was "No current development plans" which to me means either they are not going to make it at all or they will but when they do has not been decided yet. Obviously, I am hoping for the latter but you never know. My friend is also really vague with me on purpose since if word gets out cuz of him, not only will he lose his job on the spot but will be hard pressed to find another one in the industry unless he's some high profile big shot, which he's not.

 

Always protect your source! Hopefully some sort of decision is made soon, because my VF drive is in the gutter. Every time I log in online I'm lucky if I play for 15 minutes before logging off. There is never anyone around to play with. Plus watching all these R videos isn't helping.

God Sega.... WHY! WHY! WHY! Do we have to spill our own blood before you hear our cry?

 

The only thing you're doing is contradicting me for the sake of it, but each to his own I guess if that makes your eventful days all the more fullfilling.

It's not about who makes more money as a player, it's what's the widest spread type of game. More people know about Nico Bellic from GTA IV than they know about Savior, Bisu or Boxer as starcraft players. It has most likely also sold more copies than Starcraft has which means it's more popular to the general public. Among "hardcore" players Starcraft is most likely more popular and has more prestige as a game, but popularity is not measured by the hardcore audience alone.

Looking at other forums such as sports, Soccer for example is the biggest sport in the world, it doesn't require much knowledge from the spectator to understand when someone does something impressive, when someone is winning and when someone does something illegal. It's a sport that's easy to just sit down, watch and enjoy (I don't enjoy soccer). Chess on the other hand requires that the spectator knows the workings of the game to actually enjoy a game of chess being played, it's not something that a casual person could just sit down and watch and be entertained.

 

on a side note, Bisu shat on hoejja last sunday
Now back on topic:

 

Yes, exactly, glad you understand what both of us are doing here. Just remember you started it ;b

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's what's the widest spread type of game. . . GTAIV has most likely also sold more copies than Starcraft has </div></div>

If its what's the widest spread type of game, Go pretty much pwns everything else, historically speaking - anyone who can draw parallel lines and find some colored stones can play go, and it has popped up in various forms in any number of cultures. Why isn't checkers vastly more popular than it? Checkers requires way less thought, right? If you're talking sales numbers, not dollars, Starcraft and GTAIV have sold comparably so far, on the order of 10 million copies each. GTA might have a slight lead, but we're not talking a factor of 10 or 100.

There's a lot that goes into the popularity of a game, and its not just a simple matter of people have "always" chosen games that require less thought.

 

This is nicely said. In this sense, VF relates to chess as its not very interesting to watch unless you know the inner workings of the game.