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Discussion in 'VF.TV' started by Myke, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    FN_01214
    El Blaze vs Jacky

    2:19, after El Blaze throws Jacky he follows up with one of sweetest set pieces of okizeme I've seen in a long, long time.
     
  2. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    doesn't that low back throw just reminds u of taka's ? ^^
     
  3. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    FN_01329
    Magnum (JE) vs El*Mahiachi (EL)

    So we've all seen how sickening Jeffry's wall combo is:

    [1][P]+[G] (wall hit) ~ OM [K] (back crumple) ~ low back throw

    but I'm not sure what disturbs me more, the insane damage from this combo or the fact that if he whiffs the low back throw he still has time to bounce them for an air combo for almost half-life!

    See 0:24 in the above movie. FTW!
     
  4. KiwE

    KiwE Well-Known Member

    Jeff's wallgame is pretty sick atm, 1p+g has skyrocketed up the chart of the games best throw. Wonder when rev 2 is coming out ^__^

    /KiwE
     
  5. Pai_Garu

    Pai_Garu Well-Known Member

    Next Version will be Ver. A. I had originally thought that the version at the end of the beta was Ver A, but actually it's the one after Revision 1. Makes sense though, we are finally seeing VF5 coming out of beta test status...
     
  6. Chibitox

    Chibitox Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

    FN_01341

    El Blaze Throw exhibition.
    BTW hasn't "Hawwt Daawwg" throw damage been towned down ? May be it's just me.
    Anyway this Jeffry series is crazy. The only reason I see for it still being in rev1 is Jeffry users giving money to other players so that tey don't go and tell SEGA lol.
     
  7. _Denkai_

    _Denkai_ Well-Known Member

    In previous Vf titles I was never quick to point out the top tiers fighters simply because I never really believed one character was far above any other... But looking at that Jeffry video (and not just that video but many others of his) it seems his wall combo ablity is too great and its isnt just his wall game that seems unreasonably damaging but his basic combos as well. It safe to say this time that Jeffry is def among the top tiers
     
  8. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    I think Jeffry's SE against walls is ridiculous and definitely needs to be toned down. There's no question about that.

    However, if you take that away I think Jeffry seems pretty fair in VF5. His throwing game is much better with a strong [4] option, but many of his attacks have been weakened. For example, recovery of his [3][P][P] (probably his best attack in VF4) is now P-counterable, and his [6][4][P] is not nearly as good as it was before. His damage potential is only really better for [6][P]+[K]. Also, keep in mind he was rated by most as low tier in VF4, so if you believe that is true then he should be improved in VF5 for the game to be more balanced.
     
  9. Crazy_Galaxy

    Crazy_Galaxy Well-Known Member

    this got linked on irc so I dont' know the exact file name for it

    up0229.wmv jeff vs El blaze

    This clip instead shows jeffrey on the recieving end of somethign nasty:

    around 1:37 El blaze does a horrific combo
    (not guaranteed as the stagger icon came up many times during it but still! /versus/images/graemlins/ooo.gif) ,
    and the awful win quote after has to been seen to be believed... I think am2 are having one big joke /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif
     
  10. sixtwo

    sixtwo Well-Known Member

    This hasn't shown up on the mirror yet, but it is on the Kakomubi Uploader. Movie 230.wmv, beginning of the 3rd round - unbelievable damage from Jeffry - probably the most I've yet seen inflicted in VF5.
     
  11. OAG_3K

    OAG_3K Active Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    sixtwo said:

    This hasn't shown up on the mirror yet, but it is on the Kakomubi Uploader. Movie 230.wmv, beginning of the 3rd round - unbelievable damage from Jeffry - probably the most I've yet seen inflicted in VF5.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Just saw the clip. Thats way too much. Hopefully this is corrected. It's good jeffry is better than before but with damage like this he is top teir for sure.
     
  12. Cuz

    Cuz Well-Known Member

    The question is how often can that combo work? Getting hit with [6][6][K] while BT (or so it seems to me) probably doesn't happen very often.
     
  13. sixtwo

    sixtwo Well-Known Member

    It seems to be a pretty special case thing and I don't imagine it's something that needs to be corrected. I think the "Jeffry is overpowered" stuff is in general a little premature.
     
  14. KTallguy

    KTallguy Well-Known Member

    If anything, it'll prevent Lion from doing that annoying backturned move at the beginning of the round. That's a win/win /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    But in general, moves that turn the character around have become much more risky than before. Interesting.
     
  15. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    I think Jeffry needs to be made faster :p Honestly, aside from special situations, he does not seem that much powered up. Anyways, didn't he win the last tourny?
     
  16. Jerky

    Jerky Well-Known Member

    FN_01480

    Shu makes an execellent comeback against a very aggressive Akira. Good display of Shun's new attack variations.
     
  17. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    up0248.wmv (FN_01493 on hk-vf.TV)
    Toyobon (VA) vs Nagato (LE)

    Not only is this an exciting match to watch, something very interesting happens! At 2:48 Vanessa successfully does an OM against Lei's HaiShiki [K]+[G] which is a special-high full circular attack! That's right, a successful OM against a high circular!

    I can only think of two reasons why this would be possible:

    (1) Lei's HaiShiki [K]+[G] was made half circular, so not only would an OM would work but so would a regular ol' DM, or

    (2) OM has some ducking animation. So in this clip Vanessa was ducking underneath the high circular attack.

    If (2) holds true, then this could open up new strategies allowing you to use an OM against high circulars, high half-circulars, and high throws, causing them to whiff.
     
  18. supergolden

    supergolden Well-Known Member Content Mgr El Blaze

    [ QUOTE ]
    Myke said:
    (1) Lei's HaiShiki [K]+[G] was made half circular, so not only would an OM would work but so would a regular ol' DM, or

    (2) OM has some ducking animation. So in this clip Vanessa was ducking underneath the high circular attack.


    [/ QUOTE ]

    OM can be used to get around full circular attacks (kind of like you dodge as the opponent goes straight through you)... I read this in the White Book, and at first I thought I was misreading it, but your observation leads me to believe that I was right...

    They give an example of Aoi's [8][P] and [2][P] from her Tenchiinyou (Ying-Yang) Stance... It says these are fully circular but can be avoided by using OM where DM would fail... It says you can use OM when you are at advantage to avoid opponents attacks in advance (with the right timing)...

    Can OM be used to avoid all high attacks? Can OM only be used to dodge full circular attacks? Can OM be used to dodge mid/low full circular attacks (I don't think so)? Why the hell does it seem like every time I try OM I eat a major counter yoho combo... These questions remain unanswered /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

    -Alex
     
  19. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    FN_01523 (031.wmv, Brad vs Lei)

    LMAO! One of the funniest ends to a match I've ever seen! /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif
     
  20. KTallguy

    KTallguy Well-Known Member

    haha it was really anti-climactic in the end =p

    Nice play in that match though !
     

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