Evade Cancel Throw Escape

God3l's "DIY frames analysis" thread has the answers you seek.

[Note: all values assume neutral (+/-0) situation; earliest you can cancel a failed evade is on frame 10. The dash/crouch dash take extra frames, of course.]

Crouch Dash Cancel takes 5 frames to reach crouch and 7 frames to return to standing guard.

866G2 is considered dashing forward on frames 11-13, guarding high on frame 14, guarding low and ducking highs on frame 15. You can guard low instantly if not moving.

833G is considered ducking highs on frames 11-15, guarding low on frame 16, guarding high on frame 17. 833G must complete the crouch dash motion before it is considered guarding low.

This is why GentlemanThief mentioned 833G not working well against Jacky's sweep.

833G is better used for what I call the "two-hitter defense" against mid-mid string / throw mix-ups. Chibiaya describes the usage in his video on how to deal with Taka.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on any specific values.

 

Thanks for this post. This has been a chink in my personal mixup pressure that I wasn't really sure wtf was going on, now I get it. Some folks who were used to fighting me would use 833G when I would use eileen 6P+KP or 6P+K throw mixups and i wasn't sure how to deal with it other than delay my second hit more to track them. Now I can play around with ways to beat it more solidly.

edit: nevermind I see eileen would be broken as all hell if she had a mid circular.