el blaze low throw combo

The first throw is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif. It's called Hammer Through. But you have to have El Blazes back to the wall so you'll throw them behind you into it. When they hit the wall it staggers them. Also it helps to hit /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif after the first throw since rocket discharge will come out during the next move, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif if you're not careful.

And yeah, just tried it on the demo. It works on all 4 playable characters, including Lei Fei and his half wall stage. I couldn't test it on Jeff though since his stage has no walls. Only thing I'm worried about is it might be easy to stagger out of the wall hit and avoid /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. I haven't had a chance to test it out on a human opponent yet.

It's worth watching just to see 3/4th of your opponents life just drop.

edit - Hmm..I noticed the damage resets after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. I wonder if you are able to block this move, or attack out of it. I wish I could test it out. I probably won't be able to till Sat.

 

Could anyone please point me in the direction of where to find videos of this combo? Haven't seen it done on anything on youtube.
Thanks

 

I just tested it out against a real person. It's not a reliable combo since they can fast stagger out of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif into wall and avoid /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. It'll still work if they do nothing or are slow at the staggers, but against most people it just won't connect.

Steam: the original combo can be seen in this video at the 1:54 mark. It's the last combo to end the match.

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Brutal!

 

I get the 4K stagger and hit 46P+K, then seem to buffer 3P+k+G but they're always turned in time for the throw. Help?

This is from dojo mode tests.

 

I've now got the stagger and crumple to connect every time, but getting the low throw in is really tough. I can't seem to make it connect without a dash on anyone, and the dash is tough to get the timing right with. I suck /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

I've got it! It turns out you have to actually let quite a lot of the dash come out. Almost all of it, but not quite. That applies to every character I've tried it on in the last few hours of quest mode, though I didn't bother making notes of who I fought.

 

Just thought I'd confirm that this timing works on every character. You can let pretty much the entire dash come out, ere on throwing later. One interesting thing, certain small characters (Pai, Eileen, Aoi, El Blaze, Lion) do not require any dash whatsoever. No clue why, but it's neat.

Also worth mentioning is that even though it is a stagger combo, I've never seen someone struggle out of it online (like that says much). It seems pretty stable, and damn if it doesn't look cool.

 

In a vid I saw in the El Blaze with no mask thread, the player does the low throw combo differently.

He does the low throw but instead of using /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to stomach crumple he uses /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to head crumple from behind.

So the whole combo is:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif> opponent staggered from behind> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif>head crumple from behind> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif...

Looks like it is more effective than the stomach crumple and much harder for the opponent to struggle out of.

 

do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif helps to crouchdash buffer the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

but yeah, low throw into /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif is still more damage than the combo you listed but /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is only 14 frames where the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is 16 frames so it may be easier to connect the whole combo for some.

 

It's just that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif there is so easy to struggle so you don't always get the crumple from behind. You don't need them to be staggered still to crumple with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif .