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Character Tournament Rankings in Japan

Discussion in 'Arcade' started by akai, Aug 19, 2007.

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  1. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    Re: Version C - September Rankings

    I wish these jap eileen players would post more youtube vids so I can learn from them !!! I'll just have to go to more tournies
     
    Tricky, Oct 3, 2007
    #41
  2. Yupa

    Yupa Well-Known Member

    Re: Version C - September Rankings

    You're going to the Univ of Maryland on 11/17, right?
     
    Yupa, Oct 3, 2007
    #42
  3. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    Re: Version C - September Rankings

    I'm trying to go to the Philly one on nec 8th. Seeing if I can convince my sparring buddy to come. I'm kinda broke so I can't afford to fly to maryland *tear* I really need a job. Do a lot of good eileen's go to the univ. of maryland one?
     
    Tricky, Oct 3, 2007
    #43
  4. Yupa

    Yupa Well-Known Member

    Re: Version C - September Rankings

    no idea how many Eileens will be at Univ of Maryland, but it's shaping up to be the biggest east coast VF5 tourney so far...

    When exactly is <u>n</u>ec 8th anyway? I don't see it on my calender /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
     
    Yupa, Oct 3, 2007
    #44
  5. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    Tricky, Oct 3, 2007
    #45
  6. Madin

    Madin Well-Known Member

    Magnificent data! thank you very much!
     
    Madin, Oct 12, 2007
    #46
  7. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
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    Akai JC
    Version C - October Rankings

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    Most dramatic changes in character rankings (comparing October to September)...

    Semifinals:
    Aoi (+7.5 ranks)
    Blaze (-9.5 ranks)

    Finals:
    Akira (+5.5 ranks)
    Blaze (-6 ranks)
    Goh (+6 ranks)
    Jacky (-9.5 ranks)
    Vanessa (+6.25 ranks)

    Winners:
    Akira (-9.75 ranks)
    Aoi (-11.75 ranks)
    Brad (+10.75 ranks)
    Eileen (-8 ranks)
    Goh (+10.25 ranks)
    Jacky (-5.75 ranks)
    Jeffry (+9.75 ranks)
    Lei (+10.5 ranks)
    Pai (+7.5 ranks)
     
    akai, Nov 3, 2007
    #47
  8. GLaDe

    GLaDe New Member

    Re: Version C - October Rankings

    sorry for my noobness but what does that mean for kage!?
     
    GLaDe, Nov 4, 2007
    #48
  9. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    Re: Version C - October Rankings

    The charts rank the usage and success of the character in singles tournaments in Japan. The raw data is from virtuafighter.jp website.

    Basically, the chart suggests that -
    1)Kage is a very popular character used in tournaments.
    2)General population, semifinalist population, and finalist population of Kage players have high or above average success in tournament advancement.

    The original post (and subsequent posts) explains how the charts should be read.
     
    akai, Nov 4, 2007
    #49
  10. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
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    Akai JC
    Version C - November Rankings

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    ~ 4 months of tournaments, the rankings in "Total" Chart is becoming more stable. I do not think their will be any major fluctuations.

    General trends that I noticed -

    1) In the next "Total" Ranking Chart, the Goh's (an increase)and Eileen's (a decrease) ranking may change.

    2) Comparing preliminary version B and version C data, it appears that version C does not necessarily make VF5 "more balanced" than version B. I will post up more when I have more solid data on this observation.
     
    akai, Dec 4, 2007
    #50
  11. Pai_Garu

    Pai_Garu Well-Known Member

    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    It's interesting to note that based on your first set of data, Wolf went up and Eileen went down just as predicted by Arcadia (forgot which issue).
     
    Pai_Garu, Dec 4, 2007
    #51
  12. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    Surprised to see how high lau is in the list. Since ver. C he's been really pulling his weight
     
    Tricky, Dec 4, 2007
    #52
  13. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    1,323 tournaments in 4 months time, Japan is like, the promised land. Thanks again for posting these up man.

    What's crazy is, the popularity of the characters from the last Version B polls and the latest C polls don't vary much. I think 3 is the highest change I counter, being with Akira going from 5 to 2. The rest were only 1 or 2 spots if any change at all. To me that's amazing because it really shows tiers and tourney results arn't swaying player choices much. That's pretty rare in fighting games.

    Also, Shun's difference between Finals and Winners is pretty crazy. Wonder why he's having such a hard time in the finals versus others. Maybe Kage and Lau are bad matchups for him lol.
     
    KrsJin, Dec 4, 2007
    #53
  14. Steam

    Steam Active Member

    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    It's weird how one of the most annoying characters on live, Pai is so low in the finals ranking. Maybe it's just me?
     
    Steam, Dec 5, 2007
    #54
  15. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    His matches against Kage and Lau were not too bad. His record against Akira and Jacky are worse. Sample of Shun's version C character-specific matches in tournament finals -

    versus Lau - 43% (10-13)
    versus Kage - 41% (9-13)
    versus Akira - 27% (4-11)
    versus Jacky - 20% (3-9)
     
    akai, Dec 5, 2007
    #55
  16. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    Oh wow, yeah I could see that. Just guessed Lau and Kage due to their frequency in the finals, but those two make more sense to me as far as troubling matchups for him.
     
    KrsJin, Dec 5, 2007
    #56
  17. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    Seems like Kage is by far the strongest character... One of the other "S-Tier" characters, Vanessa, seems to be relatively weak. Is that correct?
     
    Gernburgs, Dec 5, 2007
    #57
  18. Fulan

    Fulan Well-Known Member

    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    Kage is a ninja, everyone else is not.
     
    Fulan, Dec 5, 2007
    #58
  19. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    Re: Version C - November Rankings

    Not exactly. You can indirectly infer that the characters are weaker or stronger, but the most appropriate interpretation of the charts are that Kage players have more success in single tournaments than Vanessa players based on the data that was available.

    As for Vanessa being a "S-Tier" character, it depends on which source you are talking about. I think both Arcadia and Tougeki Damashi (I think they are two different magazines?) released a tier list where one listed Vanessa as S-tier (based on Jide's post) while the other listed her as A-tier (Markman's scan), respectively.

    I think it is best to just take the Japanese tier lists and these ranking charts with some grain of salt. There are advantages, disadvantages, and biases on how each list are made up.
     
    akai, Dec 5, 2007
    #59
  20. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    Version C - December Rankings

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    Most tournaments in a month, but least amount of players per tournament (about 1000 less player entries)
     
    akai, Jan 8, 2008
    #60
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