Calling all Singapore VF5 players

Saturday night games

Jovian practising his new Eileen. Remember, she's slightly nerfed in Ver C.

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Shaggies picking Shun as he's 2nd main.

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SG-Lion VS Sock. I wish Sg-Lion would cut me some slacks too.

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WHO CAN DO IT??

Who will beat Driftsilencer?????

Fathom..
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Sock..
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SG-Lion..
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Ron..
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Alright my SG buddies and Aussie buddy. I'm leaving tomorrow already. My dad just called me to confirm. Train hard and show me some stuff when I return(3 weeks' time). If I offended anyone, I sincerely apologised. Knowledge is shared when asked but don't take it for granted.

Till then,

WHO CAN BEAT Driftsilencer???

PS. Those who are interested to go Japan from 24th March 08 to 2nd April 08. Please PM me(name & passport number) by Monday. I need to purchase the tickets already.

 

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what's red,white,blue & made of plastic??

lol

 

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so fast /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
Take care Danny.

I will work hard to beat DriftSilencer!!!! lol, just kidding. but i will definitely work hard.


what's red,white,blue & made of plastic?? <-- akira in costume b?

 

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Fantom,

That red, white, blue & made of plastic "thing" must be the "budget" mat, haha. Especially for people who couldn't afford a di lum yet wanted to camp in the arcade. Hmmm....maybe the dude who cycles to & fro in order to save 3 bucks can consider also, very cheap only, can also weave one using red, white & blue plastis thread, heheh.

Hey Dan,

See u in 3 weeks'time!

 

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So anyway find what is that red blue white thing called yet?
I desperately need to know the name! It's one of the biggest mysteries in my life!!!!

 

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Ang Pau, Pek Pan (mahjong), Lan Hai (sea), plastic-made items /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

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lol
i not so skilled dunno how to do weaving. btw cant find it on Google leh. haha

Dan, c u in 3wks time. Hopefully I've improved much by then

 

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Hi guys, Elson 'Darkspeeds 'Wong here.

First of all nice work on capturing those awesome moments with your mobile cam danny13. It is defintely cool to see you guys chillin' out and having VF5 bout sessions down at the local arcade in S'pore.

Secondly the answer to your question about 'WHO CAN BEAT Driftsilencer???' is most possible. Apparently I can beat Driftsilencer with ease in some cases.

Problem is I don't know how much he has improved since I played him back in Singapore.

I've only watched the first video (and plan to watch the rest when I come back from work tomorrow) and I must say that the following could have been implemented in the battle strategy to defeat my older brother's crafty Shun tatics:

- Notice how he attempts to seize the amazing opportunity to do the regular /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif throw at you. He tends to mix this up in his 'Play the Fool' strategy that Shun excels in. To avoid this my tip to you is to either:

i) <u>Anticipate his throw when he is playing defensively.</u>
or
ii) <u>At least be skilled in your throw escapes.</u>

I happen to be good with either points but sometimes he can be rather challenging and confuse me to a point where I stuff up my gameplay. Pretty nasty when he mixes up his timing to perform the all annoying drunken throw at the right time that will leave you with plenty of health depleted from your character as well as giving my brother a strong advantage of an added 3 points to his drunken state.

- Study his defense and offense patterns:

How you ask? Sometimes my brother can be repetitive with in and outs. It's annoying at first because he just loves to poke at you with 'swaying slaps' and counter at your with 'fistful' strikes if you are greedy and careless. I had a hard time trying to learn how his pattern worked but with enough pratice I can overcome some of his D+O strategies. If I was Brad I would use a mix of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to challenge his fancy footwork.

As Akira it is good to use /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, Throw tatics when close so that you can return the same fire if he plans to switch to 'Play the Fool' strategy (yes when he throws you around and making you look silly). From the distance mix it up with some clever variation on Akira's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. Judging by how fast Shun comes at you release early when you feel he is going to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, you can release late when he is 'faking' or delaying his offensive strike (sometimes he comes at you with that Sway and Charge move - again sorry if I don't remember the name or command ^^). If you are successful with the impact of Akira's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif you can keep him off guard when he recovers by following your Throw tatics or another Akira's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif works really well too if you're daring. Do remember that when you use Akira's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif it is unblockable when you hold it long enough. This 'from my experience' tends to add some tension to my brother's gameplay as Shun. Though be careful if you use that move as you will be pretty vulnerable if missed.

Anyway that is only a small sample of what you can do to counter Driftsilencer's Shun and hopefully defeat him with little frustration. Don't get me wrong he is very skilled and difficult to beat but if you play by Shun's rules and imitate his D+O strategy with a hint of your own character's potential battle strategy then you can win for sure.

Apparently I feel that I will have a rather hard time defeating this new Shun of his because of my lack of practice with VF5 during my visit to Singapore.

So yeah hope that helps a bit for those playing against him as Shun. Nothing secret really. I'll see if I can analyse the other vids and provide some tips to give my brother an interesting challenge in future rounds. *thumbs up*


***EDIT***

*watched the rest of the videos*

Hey... Nice.

Driftsilencer has improved significantly since I last played with him but again it's all back to basics with his strategies. Notice 70% of the video had Shun relying on the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif throw. Learn to counter that and already 1/3 of his gameplay is not a mystery anymore

Be careful of his /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. It is something that I used to use when I play as Shun too. Very effective attack as it has very good recover time and can be switched back to defensive mode immediately. Don't get too complicated thinking that he will switch to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif~/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif(ala~ fall to ground fake) because he rarely does that. Again fancy footwork and boxing clever offensive is his strongest point (watch out for that throw once again!)

I still remember when he used /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif as a last resort attack. Very risky but it can work in a pinch at times. When my bro uses that watch out for a follow up of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. He may have changed strategy now but I still remember him tricking me with that little move of his.

So far all of those who did battle during recording were great players with strong potential. Goodness even I will find it hard to beat you guys when I challenge you.

There is one thing I'd like to point out. Ron you almost claimed victory with Pai. Very good effort for making it that far to confusing my bro with your own strategy of quick counter attacks and your strong confidence in performing the Full Circle Throw.

What I found impressive from your gamplay was how you are very good with anticipating on my bro's Shun's ducking moments. That is a rather crucial element to defeating him when he is in 'Playing the Fool' mode. He tends to duck alot in attempt to use a snipet of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif's and a throw follow-up. If you have broken that barrier of Shun's PtF tatic then you have already distorted his momentum forcing him to switch to defensive strategy - thus giving you enough time to think up of a confident offensive strategy.

When you have pushed him to this strategy use your strongest attacks to finish him off quickly.

When I'm Pai I actually personally like to use this offensive combo on him.

(<u>Caution:</u> Unfortunately this is possible only when you are confident enough to get close to him and be confronting him with a rather risky combo)

<u>i) Start with either:</u>

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (not guranteed if he recovers quickly from the a temporary stunned ducking postion...) OR /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (again not guaranteed if he throw escapes with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif...)

<u>ii) Follow it up with:</u>

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (his position will be stunned temporary from behind and still crounching)

<u>iii) Then either these two options:</u>

A) (Aniticpating a low block from Shun) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, then /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to hit him from the ground. Finish with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif for extra damage (every hit counts *thumbs up*)

B) (Aniticpating a high block from Shun) Trick him with a quick sweep using /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif. Usually when I'm lucky my brother will react with a high attack to counter my /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. If that is the case I will avoid it using a low attack which is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif plus I get a bonus counterhit on him (i.e. more damage PLUS he falls to the ground again on impact). If he doesn't 'quick recover' finish with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif for extra damage.

All the best guys and continue to have a good time challenging each other and hopefully the next time you will win against a rather impossible to defeat Shun from Driftsilencer!! Though I must warn you, do take my advice with a pinch of salt because my bro's strategy may have totally changed since my last bout' with him! *thumbs up*

 

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You guys will have to excuse my brother. His posts tend to be on the long side.

He hasn't played VF for a while, but hopefully we can all have some sessions at Bugis when he comes over to visit here next year!

 

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Ha ha. XD Typical reply.

Yeah I haven't played for a long time. X_X;; But I just happen to have recorded very quickly a reference point to Pai's combo that I have discussed on Page 19.

I tried the combo with the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif variation and apparently it won't work on VF5 unless you make a quick dash forward initially.

In VF4 Evolution you didn't need to dash forward to gurantee a throw. XD

Anyway here's the video I've made in 5 minutes... Sorry bout' the horrible quality. ^^; The first part is the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif variation whilst the second part is the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif variation. Sorry Shun! XD; Pai's ass will be kicked next time!

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Guys, I'll be going down tommorrow evening (Tuesday, 11th dec) around 6:30 -> 8:00 for a while after work, with my usual $5 budget.

Will make a move if nobody's there, with tuesday being a workday and all, so fully understand. Happy to do other stuff as well, so let me know. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

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Lol, since you wanna start. After /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif hits in your vid, the low throw isn't guaranteed at all. Opponent can attack their way out. After /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, low throw is indeed guaranteed(when u do a short dash) but can be easily escape as Pai has only 2 low throws compared to Jeffrey and Wolf. Reference to your earlier post about Shun, there's no throws in his arsenal that allows him to drink 3 cups.

I got both your details.

 

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Alright I'll seeya!

 

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I made a tutorial out of dtarchon's 360 VSHG mod for those who might be interested.

If you guys can help me look out for third party 360 pads for the dual pcb mod that'd be much appreciated. If you manage to spot something by Mad Catz please notify me even though that's not really a guarantee. You can also notify me of other pads that aren't the Hori Pad EX, Joytech or Pelican TSZ.

 

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yep..Farp's modded VSHG works perfectly on my XBOX360..as a case in point, i could execute Akira's 1 frame knee cancel.

The resistance on the joystick could be improved though as i find it rather "loose".

 

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I will be there tonight. Remi and Paperstone will be there as well, and maybe Fantom.

Danny you are already back in Singapore?? haha

 

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Farp,

Can I get you to mod my VSHG as well? It should be arriving by the end of the month.. hopefully.

 

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Out of interest, has anyone tried that VF5 stick for the Xbox360 already ? Its awfully expensive (SGD $139 @ Gamescore), so I'm contemplating if its worthwhile getting the VSHG and "sacrificing" a 360 pad, or just forking out the $ for it and hope for the best... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

If not, the $$ goes to Kane and Lynch... which looks darn fun~!