Arcadia's FS version A tier list

For these 2 characters i see 2 problems; Firstly, getting the opponent to stop blocking. Not seen too much Lei, but for Eileen the opponent could block fairly comfortably. He throws don't to too much damage so it may just be worth the risk.
Secondly, i don't think either of these 2 characters do particularly good damage of a lot of their stuff. Especially at -14. That said, i don't think the issues with either character are that bad at all. Can't think of a game more balanced than this at the moment.

 

Eileen lands her primary launcher she'll get damage, but that is true of everyone in the cast. It's about how much damage you get from odd hits and safe moves, which isn't much for Eileen.

Also, thinking about it another possible weakness is that Eileens half circular moves don't make much of the fact that you get CH for hitting a sidestepper now. Thats a pretty big deal.

The tier list definitely has nothing to do with usage, as Eileen is pretty popular and i don't think Taka is.

 

An explanation behind these tiers requires an understanding of how the system has changed in FS, in particular the nitaku game.

With the introduction of yutori (easy) throw escape, when the defender is put in a nitaku situation they can negate the attacker's best mid and strongest throw pretty much everytime. So, attackers now rely on other means to deal damage against the yutori defense. This includes using:

• Alternate throws: When your best throw is going to be escaped the majority of the time, then you have to start mixing in alternate throw directions, and some characters have better alternate throws than others.
• Guard Breaks: These can lead into big damage for some characters, while others don't even have any!
• Low Attacks: Very powerful against the wall when you can stagger the standing yutori opponent, but if blocked they're usually very punishable. Again, some characters' low attacks are better than others.

When you also factor in other character attributes such as average damage output from combos, punishability, etc, you can start to see why the tiers have emerged this way.

But having said all that, with my extremely limited play experience and having watched many (many) videos and tournaments, I can say that every character looks pretty deadly in the right hands, which has always been a testament to the "balance" in VF's system and character designs.

 

Don't be sad. She's better than she was in Vanilla. Only thing she's missing is some half circular CH combo starters and a damn jump of the wall move. Why does she not have a jump of the wall move?!?

 

No, they don't mean shit because very few of us are on the level where they even begin to become applicable. People thinking they'll be safe from Eileen antics because of where she is on a tier list. Has most of the things that made her trouble before, plus extra stuff. Same with every character.

Coz Ninja's be played out innit. And Son Wukong is cool.